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.204ARC, .257ARC, 6.5ARC. Next...

2700fps be plenty

Thing about 108gr eld-m is that no matter the speed at the start they never cease being 108’s.

Getcher plink plink with a 22lr upper

Pew pew with 223 and hornady 75’s

And ur boom boom with some buck a pop eld-m match 108’s

All ur reloading done by mr UPS...

Be fun to see how a 112 match burner or 110 atip does with a case full.. probably won’t be rubbish.

Bet it is a sweetheart to shoot
So, what would be the shoulder angle simply going 6mm Grendel? Or, rather, how is this a better direction?


Won't this kill the Grendel case...

W/70 gr NBT?

As a handloader, I am liking the Grendal and its case.. using one in a Ruger American Predator Bolt action...

I'd do one in a 6mm also

I really like my Grendel too. Would like one of these no doubt as well. I think the 6.5 has a bit of an edge for hunting medium game inside 300 with fatter, heavier bullets, but only maybe a bit.

I ain't kicking about this one, or any one actually. Contrary to apparent popular belief, old stuff isn't diminished by new stuff. This is, after all, all fun and games.

It's a cartridge for a platform. What other 6mms that fit in AR15s are factories offering?
JBM says that the ELD 108 has 1.3 MOA less drift at 600yds @ 2750fps MV than a Sierra 80 .224 at the same specs.

Looks useful to me. Not everyone wants to spend $$ & time buying custom dies and forming cases for the wildcats.

I'm not familiar with what makes it different from the 6 PPC, but the one AR I've seen in PPC was a jamming POS. But that was 15+ years ago.

Hornady would be much better off standardizing the 22 Creedmoor. You’d sell it in many more bolt gun platforms than the ARC in an AR platform (although there was a spot for a commercialized AR 6mm cartridge). The real interest, in my opinion, is still a fast .473 rimmed .224 in a fast twist pipe.

Wrong.... Have you priced AR10 compared to AR15?? You priced building an AR10? Hell stripped lowers sell for up to $200 if you can find them. Nothing standardized on the AR10 platform. But the AR15 platform everything been standardized unless you are ruger but that’s another story..

Do a lot of guys shoot 24" AR rifles for the roles the 6mmARC is to fill? The chambering doesn't seem useless or anything, but I'm a little less interested when you start carving off 150fps for use in a typical 20" rifle. Still has a leg up on 5.56 for hunting use, but I'd rather bite the bullet and spend the extra for a 20" 6.5CM on an AR10 if deer is on the menu and you want to keep recoil down.

I stipulated bolt guns not AR platforms. The 22 Creedmoor would sell like fire if it were offered commercially in bolt guns from Rem, Win, Ruger, Howa, etc.

Possibly, but also possibly not. What's your target market for that idea? Seems about half the people here think any .22 (and sometimes .24s) is too small for deer. Target shooters seem fond of 6 and 6.mms, for now anyway. AR lovers, a group I don't belong to BTW, are always futzing around with new uppers and other stuff. I believe the big money's in ammo, long term. Hornady has set the bar for gunmakers with their ammo specs, which should prevent the problems we've seen in the past with slow twists and other specification flubs. As with the 6.5 YouKnowWhat, Hornady has also avoided conflicts with existing wildcats.

If you watch the videos they've made about this, it becomes clear they have a stategy, right or wrong. We'll see.

Scuse me while I snore.....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!

Hornady is already making 22 Creed brass, which tells me they're on the verge of SAAMI- izing the ammo too.

Every one poo poo'ed the 6.5 Creedmoor for YEARS then all of a sudden a few people shot them and look at it now!

Same same for this round a factory 6mm in an AR, previously unavailable.

I'm all for cartridge innovation, they can bring out 20 a week for all I care I am not forced to buy them but I appreciate the variety.

This is going to sell like hot cakes I suspect.

Mike

In my opinion the 6.5 Grendel is the best AR 15 platform. Any Hornady commercialized SA .224 pushing sleek 75 grain + high BC bullets at 3,500 fps has a bit of a lust factor. I could be wrong , but how hard is it for Hornady to offer both cartridges. After all they are the home of the Creedmoor.

You won't get an argument from me about the Grendel; I'm liking mine, a Mini, a lot, after a short time. One of Darrik's specials, I left it in the youth stock and added a slip-on pad for versatility. Replaced the DM with a hinged floorplate, and mounted a Fullfield E1 4.5-14. Pretty slick little rifle and very useful for these parts. Only about $750 invested total. Got lucky with load development: 120gr Gold Dots over 31gr of 2000MR, just under Speer's max. Those bullets are cheap and should be killer-dillers. Next trip it takes to the range willbe to check drops at 200 and 300, as far as I have access to, and much farther than I ever expect to shoot at game, deer anyway.

My stock answer to why companies do or don't offer stuff is that if they think they'll make money with something, they'll make it. The reverse is also true, and they pay someone pretty well to figure that stuff out. In this case, it may be as simple as the resources aren't available to do both at once. Or, since they make .22 Creed brass already (someone here said), sales of that aren't good enough to take the full plunge as yet. Call and ask.

I think the new little 6 will do okay, might even get one, though I have it pretty well surrounded by my Grendel, a .243, and a 6CM. Like the other small 6s, barrel life should be very good compared to bigger ones, with a bit more power than 6x45s and such, 100gr + bullets at the same speed as they push 85s.

#ARCnation

Tight twist 6ppc with shoulder moved forward slightly? I love my little 6PPC sako AI sporter repeater and regret only Sako made factory ppcs and not in much volume.

While I'm not a fan of plagiarism but if it results in more PPC bolt rifles then that's a positive.

If you look at this from a bolt gun perspective, you're missing much of the point. The case, like the .24 Nosler, allows long high-BC bullets to be used within the mag constraints of an AR. PPCs are designed around short bullets in slow twists for benchrest shooting, and also varmints as a sideline. Your Sako is twisted 1-14, IIRC, like a lot of 6x45 and 6x47 rifles, which is why stubby Nosler Partitions were popular for deer hunting with those. If the throats of the ARC rifles are long like the .24 Nosler, it may be hard to get light varmint bullets to shoot well.