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So when libs win we can burn the flag?
Yes... 😎
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[quote=Morewood]Never apologize for your beliefs, Brees. Now you look like a pussified appeasing two-faced panderer.
Should've stuck to your guns and if you were worried about the locker room then RETIRE with dignity.
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What do you expect from overpaid entertainers? Out of Brees ? I expected a whole lot more backbone. His agent and publicist called him saying “WTF Drew”? Now get out there and apologize, or say bye-bye to your Visa and Xbox commercials. 😎 Beaver you hit the nail on the head, some folks will suck a willie for a dollar and Brees has proven he's one of those types. I’m certain Brees true feelings are the same, probably even more in-line with some of us. If he wants to make big money. He can’t make himself toxic, especially to the Liberal Left. If he pisses us off, he’s a hero for being considered “Woke” by Liberals. 😎
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Never apologize for your beliefs, Brees. Now you look like a pussified appeasing two-faced panderer.
Should've stuck to your guns and if you were worried about the locker room then RETIRE with dignity.
Read or listen to his apology carefully. He never apologized for or backed off his belief that that he will never support disrespecting the flag. Depends on what one classifies as an “apology “ and apology is what I read of his full statement. And I believe that apology was genuine. He's a good guy. That offense to his comments was taken by friends and people he respects, truly weighed heavily in his heart. He felt sorrow for that. He examined the timing of his comments and the totality of the circumstances and apologized for it. Or maybe there's more to it than that. I'd like to say that I'd never be disrespectful to the flag, but if you think about the direction so many people in this country would like to see it go in, can you envision yourself disrespecting the flag when it no longer represents what you hold dear? So when libs win we can burn the flag? If you are willing to subject yourself to an experiment in empathy, do this. Imagine a USA where your gun rights allowed you to check out hunting weapons only from the local constabulary. A USA where businesses were run and controlled by the government. One where hard work was not rewarded. In other words a USA (however you want to complete the exercise in your mind) that is the antithesis of what you think it should be. Would you have the stones to sit in silent protest or would you stand in reverence before the flag?
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Just another reason to keep the NFL on ignore for now.
Been tuned out for 3 years, so no change there.
Oh well.
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Never apologize for your beliefs, Brees. Now you look like a pussified appeasing two-faced panderer.
Should've stuck to your guns and if you were worried about the locker room then RETIRE with dignity.
Read or listen to his apology carefully. He never apologized for or backed off his belief that that he will never support disrespecting the flag. Depends on what one classifies as an “apology “ and apology is what I read of his full statement. And I believe that apology was genuine. He's a good guy. That offense to his comments was taken by friends and people he respects, truly weighed heavily in his heart. He felt sorrow for that. He examined the timing of his comments and the totality of the circumstances and apologized for it. Or maybe there's more to it than that. I'd like to say that I'd never be disrespectful to the flag, but if you think about the direction so many people in this country would like to see it go in, can you envision yourself disrespecting the flag when it no longer represents what you hold dear? His apology was “genuine “, you say. So his first comments were all lies and false patriotism? Can’t have it both ways. His retraction was a cut and run deal. It’s that simple, no more or no less to it. You can ‘envision ‘ and slip and slide all you want. Yours is neither fish nor fowl. And you know it Would it happen to be just because he plays for the Saints, with you?
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Never apologize for your beliefs, Brees. Now you look like a pussified appeasing two-faced panderer.
Should've stuck to your guns and if you were worried about the locker room then RETIRE with dignity.
Read or listen to his apology carefully. He never apologized for or backed off his belief that that he will never support disrespecting the flag. Depends on what one classifies as an “apology “ and apology is what I read of his full statement. And I believe that apology was genuine. He's a good guy. That offense to his comments was taken by friends and people he respects, truly weighed heavily in his heart. He felt sorrow for that. He examined the timing of his comments and the totality of the circumstances and apologized for it. Or maybe there's more to it than that. I'd like to say that I'd never be disrespectful to the flag, but if you think about the direction so many people in this country would like to see it go in, can you envision yourself disrespecting the flag when it no longer represents what you hold dear? So when libs win we can burn the flag? If you are willing to subject yourself to an experiment in empathy, do this. Imagine a USA where your gun rights allowed you to check out hunting weapons only from the local constabulary. A USA where businesses were run and controlled by the government. One where hard work was not rewarded. In other words a USA (however you want to complete the exercise in your mind) that is the antithesis of what you think it should be. Would you have the stones to sit in silent protest or would you stand in reverence before the flag? That has fug all to do with what that flag stands for from inception.
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Never apologize for your beliefs, Brees. Now you look like a pussified appeasing two-faced panderer.
Should've stuck to your guns and if you were worried about the locker room then RETIRE with dignity.
Read or listen to his apology carefully. He never apologized for or backed off his belief that that he will never support disrespecting the flag. Depends on what one classifies as an “apology “ and apology is what I read of his full statement. And I believe that apology was genuine. He's a good guy. That offense to his comments was taken by friends and people he respects, truly weighed heavily in his heart. He felt sorrow for that. He examined the timing of his comments and the totality of the circumstances and apologized for it. Or maybe there's more to it than that. I'd like to say that I'd never be disrespectful to the flag, but if you think about the direction so many people in this country would like to see it go in, can you envision yourself disrespecting the flag when it no longer represents what you hold dear? His apology was “genuine “, you say. So his first comments were all lies and false patriotism? Can’t have it both ways. His retraction was a cut and run deal. It’s that simple, no more or no less to it. You can ‘envision ‘ and slip and slide all you want. Yours is neither fish nor fowl. And you know it Would it happen to be just because he plays for the Saints, with you? I don't really care too much about football or the Saints. I don't watch it. By all accounts Drew Brees is a good guy. I haven't invested a whole lot of time dissecting his comments. I have read through them. To me it looked like he apologized more for the timing coupled with the whole of the situation and did not say he was changing his beliefs or sorry for having them. I have no quantifiable reason for believing his apology was genuine. Empathy guides me. I can't remember specifics, but I have said things for which I later apologized, even though when I said them I had no malice at all. It's part of the human experience. Maybe that's straddling the fence.
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Never apologize for your beliefs, Brees. Now you look like a pussified appeasing two-faced panderer.
Should've stuck to your guns and if you were worried about the locker room then RETIRE with dignity.
Read or listen to his apology carefully. He never apologized for or backed off his belief that that he will never support disrespecting the flag. Depends on what one classifies as an “apology “ and apology is what I read of his full statement. And I believe that apology was genuine. He's a good guy. That offense to his comments was taken by friends and people he respects, truly weighed heavily in his heart. He felt sorrow for that. He examined the timing of his comments and the totality of the circumstances and apologized for it. Or maybe there's more to it than that. I'd like to say that I'd never be disrespectful to the flag, but if you think about the direction so many people in this country would like to see it go in, can you envision yourself disrespecting the flag when it no longer represents what you hold dear? His apology was “genuine “, you say. So his first comments were all lies and false patriotism? Can’t have it both ways. His retraction was a cut and run deal. It’s that simple, no more or no less to it. You can ‘envision ‘ and slip and slide all you want. Yours is neither fish nor fowl. And you know it Would it happen to be just because he plays for the Saints, with you? I don't really care too much about football or the Saints. I don't watch it. By all accounts Drew Brees is a good guy. I haven't invested a whole lot of time dissecting his comments. I have read through them. To me it looked like he apologized more for the timing coupled with the whole of the situation and did not say he was changing his beliefs or sorry for having them. I have no quantifiable reason for believing his apology was genuine. Empathy guides me. I can't remember specifics, but I have said things for which I later apologized, even though when I said them I had no malice at all. It's part of the human experience. Maybe that's straddling the fence. It is straddling the fence but it’s your right to do so. Timing has nothing to do with his first statements being wrong and then apologizing for them regardless of the whole of the situation. All of the above, jmo.
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Never apologize for your beliefs, Brees. Now you look like a pussified appeasing two-faced panderer.
Should've stuck to your guns and if you were worried about the locker room then RETIRE with dignity.
Read or listen to his apology carefully. He never apologized for or backed off his belief that that he will never support disrespecting the flag. Depends on what one classifies as an “apology “ and apology is what I read of his full statement. And I believe that apology was genuine. He's a good guy. That offense to his comments was taken by friends and people he respects, truly weighed heavily in his heart. He felt sorrow for that. He examined the timing of his comments and the totality of the circumstances and apologized for it. Or maybe there's more to it than that. I'd like to say that I'd never be disrespectful to the flag, but if you think about the direction so many people in this country would like to see it go in, can you envision yourself disrespecting the flag when it no longer represents what you hold dear? His apology was “genuine “, you say. So his first comments were all lies and false patriotism? Can’t have it both ways. His retraction was a cut and run deal. It’s that simple, no more or no less to it. You can ‘envision ‘ and slip and slide all you want. Yours is neither fish nor fowl. And you know it Would it happen to be just because he plays for the Saints, with you? I don't really care too much about football or the Saints. I don't watch it. By all accounts Drew Brees is a good guy. I haven't invested a whole lot of time dissecting his comments. I have read through them. To me it looked like he apologized more for the timing coupled with the whole of the situation and did not say he was changing his beliefs or sorry for having them. I have no quantifiable reason for believing his apology was genuine. Empathy guides me. I can't remember specifics, but I have said things for which I later apologized, even though when I said them I had no malice at all. It's part of the human experience. Maybe that's straddling the fence. Paul, apologies. I don’t mean to beat up on you. You’ve made your case and Brees is a good guy, he’s consistently shown himself to be a class act. That’s the truth and it’s documented for all that he’s done for others in putting his money where his mouth is. Maybe that’s what disappointed me so much as to what I perceived as his lack of conviction on his first statements. We’re good here.
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If Brees can be turned into the villain as simply as that.....anyone can be. Tough times.
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Never apologize for your beliefs, Brees. Now you look like a pussified appeasing two-faced panderer.
Should've stuck to your guns and if you were worried about the locker room then RETIRE with dignity.
Read or listen to his apology carefully. He never apologized for or backed off his belief that that he will never support disrespecting the flag. I was of the opinion kneeling was disrespecting the flag. I was taught to salute it.
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Never apologize for your beliefs, Brees. Now you look like a pussified appeasing two-faced panderer.
Should've stuck to your guns and if you were worried about the locker room then RETIRE with dignity.
Read or listen to his apology carefully. He never apologized for or backed off his belief that that he will never support disrespecting the flag. Depends on what one classifies as an “apology “ and apology is what I read of his full statement. And I believe that apology was genuine. He's a good guy. That offense to his comments was taken by friends and people he respects, truly weighed heavily in his heart. He felt sorrow for that. He examined the timing of his comments and the totality of the circumstances and apologized for it. Or maybe there's more to it than that. I'd like to say that I'd never be disrespectful to the flag, but if you think about the direction so many people in this country would like to see it go in, can you envision yourself disrespecting the flag when it no longer represents what you hold dear? His apology was “genuine “, you say. So his first comments were all lies and false patriotism? Can’t have it both ways. His retraction was a cut and run deal. It’s that simple, no more or no less to it. You can ‘envision ‘ and slip and slide all you want. Yours is neither fish nor fowl. And you know it Would it happen to be just because he plays for the Saints, with you? Truth.
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
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"His agent and publicist called him saying “WTF Drew”?
Now get out there and apologize, or say bye-bye to your Visa and Xbox commercials."
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Never apologize for your beliefs, Brees. Now you look like a pussified appeasing two-faced panderer.
Should've stuck to your guns and if you were worried about the locker room then RETIRE with dignity.
Read or listen to his apology carefully. He never apologized for or backed off his belief that that he will never support disrespecting the flag. Depends on what one classifies as an “apology “ and apology is what I read of his full statement. And I believe that apology was genuine. He's a good guy. That offense to his comments was taken by friends and people he respects, truly weighed heavily in his heart. He felt sorrow for that. He examined the timing of his comments and the totality of the circumstances and apologized for it. Or maybe there's more to it than that. I'd like to say that I'd never be disrespectful to the flag, but if you think about the direction so many people in this country would like to see it go in, can you envision yourself disrespecting the flag when it no longer represents what you hold dear? His apology was “genuine “, you say. So his first comments were all lies and false patriotism? Can’t have it both ways. His retraction was a cut and run deal. It’s that simple, no more or no less to it. You can ‘envision ‘ and slip and slide all you want. Yours is neither fish nor fowl. And you know it Would it happen to be just because he plays for the Saints, with you? I don't really care too much about football or the Saints. I don't watch it. By all accounts Drew Brees is a good guy. I haven't invested a whole lot of time dissecting his comments. I have read through them. To me it looked like he apologized more for the timing coupled with the whole of the situation and did not say he was changing his beliefs or sorry for having them. I have no quantifiable reason for believing his apology was genuine. Empathy guides me. I can't remember specifics, but I have said things for which I later apologized, even though when I said them I had no malice at all. It's part of the human experience. Maybe that's straddling the fence. Paul, apologies. I don’t mean to beat up on you. You’ve made your case and Brees is a good guy, he’s consistently shown himself to be a class act. That’s the truth and it’s documented for all that he’s done for others in putting his money where his mouth is. Maybe that’s what disappointed me so much as to what I perceived as his lack of conviction on his first statements. We’re good here. Dude, you aren't going to hurt my feeling. We'll disagree again in the future, I am sure. You response was a bit edgy, but that's part and parcel of how we interact here. Mom wasn't brought into the equation, so we are good!
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On his 2nd apology now.
Heavy is the heart.....
He’s some in here’s hero.....
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On his 2nd apology now.
Heavy is the heart.....
He’s some in here’s hero.....
🤷🤦🏻♂️ His knees have gotta be killing him
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This is inflation
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