Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Why aren't the police getting organized with a response?

I don't know. And I'm really not trying to be a smart azz here but if the reason they don't is that "it's hard to do", that doesn't seem very satisfying.

Police union's power comes from legal action.

I'm not sure what type of public message you'd like them to put together. Maybe give an example?

The cops in the liberal cities have been told to stand down by the mayors. If they enforce the law in those cities they will be charged with crimes, their faces will be all over TV, and their lives will be ruined.

Pride goeth before a fall, and it went.

Defunding police sounds pretty stupid, but if they arent going to do the job....

The police have been listening to idiots opine about their profession for a long, long, time. They're pretty numb to it.

Kinda like when you handcuff a guy and he says "I can't bweave."

I'd be all for a sick out. Let the folks get a clue and vote some dimocommies out.

To answer your question, first I've been an LEO, so I have that experience.
They are organized, particularly in the big, liberal run cities. New York City has the oldest and most powerful of them all. San Francisco isn't far behind. San Jose, Kalifornia was one of the innovators. My longest, and closest friend was the president of the San Jose Peace Officers Assn. We talked a lot about it.
Right now, you don't hear much. That's because they've learned not to say anything that isn't "politically correct". Not on social media, no place - period.
They've done "work slow downs," and out right strikes. Not a good way. But they do have an effect.
Their best weapon is to let the left make some serious mistakes and they act. Usually through the legal system. And news leaks. A little at a time. For now.
Right now, they have quietly stated the cop(s) in the current incident, who arrested George Floyd, have had their rights violated. Not their employment/labor rights, their constitutional rights....
What's that ? The cop arrest for Floyd's death was arrested on nothing more than the cell phone video. Brutal, shocking, OK. But they were using force to arrest him. What happened before that ? No cause of death had been established at that point. No time of death either. They stated when they arrested him that "normally these investigations take 9 months to a year to complete. Not this time.
All of them are now facing much more serious charges. Based on what ? The finding of a highly discredited retired medical examiner hired by the lawyer for the family.
You are also seeing cops continue in other places to arrested, and charged with crimes based on nothing more than cell phone videos while they are trying to control riots, not, as the press keeps saying "peaceful demonstrators."
So, grab some popcorn, this is going to take a while. E

So all police belong to a union huh?


Perhaps they aren't speaking out because they don't want to be fired or called a racist.

That’s grounds for termination.

Today, the U.S. collectively spends $100 billion a year on policing and a further $80 billion on incarceration. Even though crime levels have dropped substantially over the last 30 years in line with the spending uptake, a report released last month argues that this occurred in spite of higher police budgets.

AOC would be so proud of you right now.

The mighty pension. Just counting the days till they’re out of there.

She's just channeling her Obama

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Sounds like they are pretty well terminated anyway, except from our paying them.

Maybe the plan is for crackers to organize vigilantes to protect their neighborhoods. Then the full force of dimocrap Gestapo could descend on them and take their guns as members of organized crime.

Perhaps the crackers need to migrate into gated communities and let the blecks prey on each other.

Why when driving and we see a cop doesn't everyone think "I feel safer now" and not instantly look at the speedometer and hope they're not a few miles over the powers that be and sometimes ridiculous limit

George Gwaltney loves you

There was a program on Public Radio this week with a "hit piece" on the police unions. Which seems to me a pretty strong case that the unions are going to be the new scapegoat.

On the surface, there's a logical argument to be made. And I'm probably predisposed to those arguments, as I'm no admirer of unions as they are today.

Nevertheless, I think the problem is not the unions as much as the pensions. Pensions are golden handcuffs. You need to stay in to get vested, and you need to stay in to "make your 20", or whatever the magic pay-day is.

The result is coppers staying in long past their sell-by date. Long past the point the point where they are there only for the pension. Long past the point of jaded, burnt out, cynical, or whatever pejorative applies.

Not unique to coppers, same-same for teachers or other folks on the hook by a pension. It's got to be emotionally destructive to have your choices taken from you.

I suspect that if the retirement system were to change to a defined contribution (and, yes, a generous one), like a 403B, the number of public servants that feel they "can't leave" because of their golden retirement handcuffs will drop. They could simply take their (retirement) ball and quietly get out when it's not fun anymore.

Forty years ago a life long career was the norm. Today, people generally have two, three or more careers before hanging it up. Doing the same thing for a long time is not necessarily a good thing.

Reminds of a quote by Orwell:


"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because brave social justice beta male warriors stand ready to post on the internet on their behalf."


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You can read it and whack off in delight of another dead cop front of your husband lol

All I posted was some facts Why are you attacking me personally?

It's like your a cop with a typical cop response