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There is no proof that the attacker was fleeing...... . What Planet? Not sure I'd hang my hat on fleeing when he was discharging a weapon over his shoulder. I'm sure many cops wouldn't of shot him. Doesn't mean the one that did wasn't justified. OK. To me, he was clearly fleeing and had already discharged the less than lethal weapon. Whatever. I don’t like discharges. Have to clean drawers. Happy Trails Bob
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I'm pretty sure she meant clit. So much contribution. So, you think it a good shoot, I don't. What do you figure the path forward is?
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There is no proof that the attacker was fleeing...... . What Planet? Not sure I'd hang my hat on fleeing when he was discharging a weapon over his shoulder. I'm sure many cops wouldn't of shot him. Doesn't mean the one that did wasn't justified. OK. To me, he was clearly fleeing and had already discharged the less than lethal weapon. Whatever. I don’t like discharges. Have to clean drawers. Happy Trails Bob Now that is a simple, clear, opposing statement. Good one too.
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Cop was in a rapidly developing, high stress situation. Dude Rag dolled and rolled over him and his partner and ran away after having a 40 minute conversation. That’s situation went from 0-100 in seconds. While chasing this guy he saw the guy turn around and shoot at him. Doesn’t matter if it was a taser, BB gun or water pistol. It happened too quickly for him to think...he reacted the way he was trained. He moved off line and returned fire. Given a fair trial and good lawyer, I wouldn’t be surprised to see him cleared.
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There is no proof that the attacker was fleeing...... . What Planet? Not sure I'd hang my hat on fleeing when he was discharging a weapon over his shoulder. I'm sure many cops wouldn't of shot him. Doesn't mean the one that did wasn't justified. OK. To me, he was clearly fleeing and had already discharged the less than lethal weapon. Whatever. What was the timeline from homie discharging the taser to him getting plugged? Without watching the vid again, I'm going with pretty damn fast. I'd not hang the cop out to dry over that. OK. Not sure. But, to me the officer made the wrong call. Guess we are in disagreement. Should we call each other names now, or just see what unfolds
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So, by your logic.....a perp can shoot til he’s out of ammo.......then quickly turn around and not be worried about getting shot in the back? There are no time-outs when the line is crossed. I'm as pro-cop as it gets.
But when you look at the video where he was shot, he'd already fired the taser over his shoulder while running away, then continued to run away when shot in the back.
I would have let him go, and gotten a warrant, and picked him up later.
Perhaps the shooting would have been justified when he was getting the best of the two cops when they were fighting him on the ground, and he grabbed the taser.
But that didn't happen. It's a question of timing. At the moment of getting shot, he wasn't much of a threat.
This doesn't excuse what the POS did, or make him a "Good Boy". Those types usually end up getting killed by the sword because they live by the sword...
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Cop was in a rapidly developing, high stress situation. Dude Rag dolled and rolled over him and his partner and ran away after having a 40 minute conversation. That’s situation went from 0-100 in seconds. While chasing this guy he saw the guy turn around and shoot at him. Doesn’t matter if it was a taser, BB gun or water pistol. It happened too quickly for him to think...he reacted the way he was trained. He moved off line and returned fire. Given a fair trial and good lawyer, I wouldn’t be surprised to see him cleared. Yes sir. Did he know exactly what was shot at him? Did he know what weapons were taken from him and his partner? Cop was forced into a [bleep] situation. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
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So, by your logic.....a perp can shoot til he’s out of ammo.......then quickly turn around and not be worried about getting shot in the back? There are no time-outs when the line is crossed. I'm as pro-cop as it gets.
But when you look at the video where he was shot, he'd already fired the taser over his shoulder while running away, then continued to run away when shot in the back.
I would have let him go, and gotten a warrant, and picked him up later.
Perhaps the shooting would have been justified when he was getting the best of the two cops when they were fighting him on the ground, and he grabbed the taser.
But that didn't happen. It's a question of timing. At the moment of getting shot, he wasn't much of a threat.
This doesn't excuse what the POS did, or make him a "Good Boy". Those types usually end up getting killed by the sword because they live by the sword... I just don't see why you would respond like this. RB said nothing of the sort that you are implying.
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His point was......when the perp turns and runs away........no longer a threat. Shooting not justified because of this.....his logic. Taser, pepper spray, firearm........using any against law enforcement isn’t suddenly canceled when a perp turns his back to run. So, by your logic.....a perp can shoot til he’s out of ammo.......then quickly turn around and not be worried about getting shot in the back? There are no time-outs when the line is crossed. I'm as pro-cop as it gets.
But when you look at the video where he was shot, he'd already fired the taser over his shoulder while running away, then continued to run away when shot in the back.
I would have let him go, and gotten a warrant, and picked him up later.
Perhaps the shooting would have been justified when he was getting the best of the two cops when they were fighting him on the ground, and he grabbed the taser.
But that didn't happen. It's a question of timing. At the moment of getting shot, he wasn't much of a threat.
This doesn't excuse what the POS did, or make him a "Good Boy". Those types usually end up getting killed by the sword because they live by the sword... I just don't see why you would respond like this. RB said nothing of the sort that you are implying.
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OK. Not sure. But, to me the officer made the wrong call. Guess we are in disagreement. Should we call each other names now, or just see what unfolds
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So, by your logic.....a perp can shoot til he’s out of ammo.......then quickly turn around and not be worried about getting shot in the back? There are no time-outs when the line is crossed. I'm as pro-cop as it gets.
But when you look at the video where he was shot, he'd already fired the taser over his shoulder while running away, then continued to run away when shot in the back.
I would have let him go, and gotten a warrant, and picked him up later.
Perhaps the shooting would have been justified when he was getting the best of the two cops when they were fighting him on the ground, and he grabbed the taser.
But that didn't happen. It's a question of timing. At the moment of getting shot, he wasn't much of a threat.
This doesn't excuse what the POS did, or make him a "Good Boy". Those types usually end up getting killed by the sword because they live by the sword... I just don't see why you would respond like this. RB said nothing of the sort that you are implying. Your deep thinking is on full display.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Gotcha, thanks. Good point. His point was......when the perp turns and runs away........no longer a threat. Shooting not justified because of this.....his logic. Taser, pepper spray, firearm........using any against law enforcement isn’t suddenly canceled when a perp turns his back to run. So, by your logic.....a perp can shoot til he’s out of ammo.......then quickly turn around and not be worried about getting shot in the back? There are no time-outs when the line is crossed. I'm as pro-cop as it gets.
But when you look at the video where he was shot, he'd already fired the taser over his shoulder while running away, then continued to run away when shot in the back.
I would have let him go, and gotten a warrant, and picked him up later.
Perhaps the shooting would have been justified when he was getting the best of the two cops when they were fighting him on the ground, and he grabbed the taser.
But that didn't happen. It's a question of timing. At the moment of getting shot, he wasn't much of a threat.
This doesn't excuse what the POS did, or make him a "Good Boy". Those types usually end up getting killed by the sword because they live by the sword... I just don't see why you would respond like this. RB said nothing of the sort that you are implying.
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Please explain, do you believe tasers to be classified as deadly weapons? In 2008 a Baron Pikes was killed by a taser used by police officer Scott Nugent in Winnfield Louisiana. The coroner blamed the officer for committing an illegal homicide and specified that the man was killed with the taser. The officer was acquitted of any crime but the taser was considered the cause of death. No less than the left wing organization Amnesty International has declared the taser a deadly weapon.
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Please explain, do you believe tasers to be classified as deadly weapons? In 2008 a Baron Pikes was killed by a taser used by police officer Scott Nugent in Winnfield Louisiana. The coroner blamed the officer for committing an illegal homicide and specified that the man was killed with the taser. The officer was acquitted of any crime but the taser was considered the cause of death. No less than the left wing organization Amnesty International has declared the taser a deadly weapon. Thanks. Referenced above is a SCOTUS decision. Fairly common to be classified as less than lethal. Would you like to call each other names now? Kidding.
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So, by your logic.....a perp can shoot til he’s out of ammo.......then quickly turn around and not be worried about getting shot in the back? There are no time-outs when the line is crossed. I'm as pro-cop as it gets.
But when you look at the video where he was shot, he'd already fired the taser over his shoulder while running away, then continued to run away when shot in the back.
I would have let him go, and gotten a warrant, and picked him up later.
Perhaps the shooting would have been justified when he was getting the best of the two cops when they were fighting him on the ground, and he grabbed the taser.
But that didn't happen. It's a question of timing. At the moment of getting shot, he wasn't much of a threat.
This doesn't excuse what the POS did, or make him a "Good Boy". Those types usually end up getting killed by the sword because they live by the sword... I just don't see why you would respond like this. RB said nothing of the sort that you are implying. Your deep thinking is on full display. And yours. I didn't see where RB said anything like letting perps fire all their ammo before taking action. Didn't jibe. MW cleared it up. You on the other hand seem to think your opinion matters more than others. It doesn't.
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OK. Not sure. But, to me the officer made the wrong call. Guess we are in disagreement. Should we call each other names now, or just see what unfolds
Try and guess what happens five moves after your getting your wish. I don't need to guess anything. That's not my involvement. I just don't agree with police in this instance deciding to shoot the perp in the back while running away. BFD
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OK. Not sure. But, to me the officer made the wrong call. Guess we are in disagreement. Should we call each other names now, or just see what unfolds
Try and guess what happens five moves after your getting your wish. I don't need to guess anything. That's not my involvement. I just don't agree with police in this instance deciding to shoot the perp in the back while running away. BFD Would it have be Ok if he were running backwards ?
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