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Could be Irish.


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According to God's Word we are all of the same race. There are "peoples and multitudes and nations and tongues."


"Only Christ is the fullness of God's revelation."
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Guys pay thousands to millions for well-bred horses, that can run fast or cut cattle, etc.. People pay thousands for certain dog “breeds” (and the behavioral characteristics that come with those breeds) that have only been developed in the last 200-300 years.

Then, you ask some of these same folks about people of different “races”, who have had THOUSANDS of years to develop/breed certain behaviors/IQ, and you get some BS about how “People are all the same, except for their looks/skin color!”

Think about it....

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Originally Posted by fburgtx
Guys pay thousands to millions for well-bred horses, that can run fast or cut cattle, etc.. People pay thousands for certain dog “breeds” (and the behavioral characteristics that come with those breeds) that have only been developed in the last 200-300 years.

Then, you ask some of these same folks about people of different “races”, who have had THOUSANDS of years to develop/breed certain behaviors/IQ, and you get some BS about how “People are all the same, except for their looks/skin color!”

Think about it....




Simple enough, people think they are above nature.

And halfwits like ringy-thingy don't help either.


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Originally Posted by JSTUART
Originally Posted by fburgtx
Guys pay thousands to millions for well-bred horses, that can run fast or cut cattle, etc.. People pay thousands for certain dog “breeds” (and the behavioral characteristics that come with those breeds) that have only been developed in the last 200-300 years.

Then, you ask some of these same folks about people of different “races”, who have had THOUSANDS of years to develop/breed certain behaviors/IQ, and you get some BS about how “People are all the same, except for their looks/skin color!”

Think about it....




Simple enough, people think they are above nature.

And halfwits like ringy-thingy don't help either.



I’m just approaching it from a “scientific” standpoint. If you believe “natural selection” or genetics mean something, then you’d have to think that different groups of people, who lived in relative isolation for thousands of years (until the advent of motorized transportation) just MIGHT have different behavioral characteristics or intelligence levels or other traits.

Saying “all people are the same” is almost ss silly as saying “a Pointer is the same as a Dalmation”...

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Originally Posted by fburgtx


I’m just approaching it from a “scientific” standpoint. If you believe “natural selection” or genetics mean something, then you’d have to think that different groups of people, who lived in relative isolation for thousands of years (until the advent of motorized transportation) just MIGHT have different behavioral characteristics or intelligence levels or other traits.

Saying “all people are the same” is almost ss silly as saying “a Pointer is the same as a Dalmation”...


You will get no argument from me...for what you are saying is self evident to any that have lived on the land.

Pretty hard to refute.


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Originally Posted by fburgtx
Originally Posted by JSTUART
Originally Posted by fburgtx
Guys pay thousands to millions for well-bred horses, that can run fast or cut cattle, etc.. People pay thousands for certain dog “breeds” (and the behavioral characteristics that come with those breeds) that have only been developed in the last 200-300 years.

Then, you ask some of these same folks about people of different “races”, who have had THOUSANDS of years to develop/breed certain behaviors/IQ, and you get some BS about how “People are all the same, except for their looks/skin color!”

Think about it....




Simple enough, people think they are above nature.

And halfwits like ringy-thingy don't help either.



I’m just approaching it from a “scientific” standpoint. If you believe “natural selection” or genetics mean something, then you’d have to think that different groups of people, who lived in relative isolation for thousands of years (until the advent of motorized transportation) just MIGHT have different behavioral characteristics or intelligence levels or other traits.

Saying “all people are the same” is almost ss silly as saying “a Pointer is the same as a Dalmation”...


You're a little late to the game with that "scientific" mumbo jumbo. Adolph Hitler already used it to found a political movement that had world wide implications. And was pretty soundly rejected.


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Which explains a lot.
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Originally Posted by nighthawk
Originally Posted by fburgtx
Originally Posted by JSTUART
Originally Posted by fburgtx
Guys pay thousands to millions for well-bred horses, that can run fast or cut cattle, etc.. People pay thousands for certain dog “breeds” (and the behavioral characteristics that come with those breeds) that have only been developed in the last 200-300 years.

Then, you ask some of these same folks about people of different “races”, who have had THOUSANDS of years to develop/breed certain behaviors/IQ, and you get some BS about how “People are all the same, except for their looks/skin color!”

Think about it....




Simple enough, people think they are above nature.

And halfwits like ringy-thingy don't help either.



I’m just approaching it from a “scientific” standpoint. If you believe “natural selection” or genetics mean something, then you’d have to think that different groups of people, who lived in relative isolation for thousands of years (until the advent of motorized transportation) just MIGHT have different behavioral characteristics or intelligence levels or other traits.

Saying “all people are the same” is almost ss silly as saying “a Pointer is the same as a Dalmation”...


You're a little late in the game with that "scientific" mumbo jumbo. Adolph Hitler already used it to found a political movement that had world wide implications. And was pretty soundly rejected.


Thanks, Mr. Godwin....

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Huh? The philosopher apologia for anarchy?

Hitler and the superiority of the Aryan race actually did happen. I would quote Santayana but I fear that would be a waste.

Or for those having trouble comprehending without an entertaining video...



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Is a Doberman better than a Pointer?? Depends on what you want. Are they “different”?? Most would say “yes”. Jesse Owens showed Der Fuhrer, in 1936, that the Germans weren’t necessarily “superior”.

Do you want a conversation about “superior”, or “different”? You seem to want to insinuate that it has to be the same thing...

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Originally Posted by fburgtx
Is a Doberman better than a Pointer?? Depends on what you want. Are they “different”?? Most would say “yes”. Jesse Owens showed Der Fuhrer, in 1936, that the Germans weren’t necessarily “superior”.

Do you want a conversation about “superior”, or “different”? You seem to want to insinuate that it has to be the same thing...


Wasting your time...!


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Originally Posted by JSTUART
Originally Posted by fburgtx
Is a Doberman better than a Pointer?? Depends on what you want. Are they “different”?? Most would say “yes”. Jesse Owens showed Der Fuhrer, in 1936, that the Germans weren’t necessarily “superior”.

Do you want a conversation about “superior”, or “different”? You seem to want to insinuate that it has to be the same thing...


Wasting your time...!


Yep. Everybody says “We need to talk about race!”.
Then, when you don’t parrot their views, it’s all “You’re a racist Hitler!!!” Wonder why folks don’t wanna “Talk about race...”???

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Originally Posted by fburgtx

Do you want a conversation about “superior”, or “different”? You seem to want to insinuate that it has to be the same thing...

That's how it's worked out for all of human history.We-uns is better than you-uns. You will serve us or we'll kill you. And we're not talking about physical attributes.

Maybe another video will help. Recorded 1930. Santayana strikes again.



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Originally Posted by nighthawk
Originally Posted by fburgtx

Do you want a conversation about “superior”, or “different”? You seem to want to insinuate that it has to be the same thing...

That's how it's worked out for all of human history.We-uns is better than you-uns. You will serve us or we'll kill you. And we're not talking about physical attributes.

Maybe another video will help. Recorded 1930. Santayana strikes again.






You wanna discuss history, science, or philosophy?? They’re not all the same thing. Send your DNA to “23 and Me”, and see if they tell you your genetic material is the same as a Pacific Islander...

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Of the three I suppose philosophy. Philosophy gets down to meaning , the essence, on an existential level. In the course of human relations what is the significance of race. Or if you change the word in interpreting the song, "...what is the worth of a man." Is it merely the value of labor that can be extracted from a person? A perhaps genetic difference. Or does it include the nonphysical aspect of a person, recognized by the ancient Greeks and a basis of Western thought through current times. And so if you reduce a person to his genetic components are you dismissing that which contributes more to his humanity than his physical traits, reducing him to no more than yet another beast of burden?


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Perhaps so. It seems to me, though, that in the last couple of decades, we’ve gone from celebrating/appreciating/“tolerating” everyone’s “differences” (equality), to somehow “lying” to ourselves, and telling everyone we’re all the “same”. One is a form of enlightenment, while the latter borders on intellectual dishonesty.

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