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Not mine either. Camouflage is an interesting thing. As I understand it, camo isn't intended to mimic any particular environment but more so to break up the lines of the thing or person it is hiding. It does so by masking the the object so it doesn't appear to have the recognizable patters, sizes, geometry, shapes, mass or what have you to the observer. And in that vein camouflage attempts to deceiver the observer into thinking the thing he is about to run into isn't even there. But that is one butt ugly 99! I think that's partly correct, and works for deer, moose, etc. However camo is a different thing when it comes to turkeys, ducks, etc. At least that's how I understand it.
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Not mine either. Camouflage is an interesting thing. As I understand it, camo isn't intended to mimic any particular environment but more so to break up the lines of the thing or person it is hiding. It does so by masking the the object so it doesn't appear to have the recognizable patters, sizes, geometry, shapes, mass or what have you to the observer. And in that vein camouflage attempts to deceiver the observer into thinking the thing he is about to run into isn't even there. But that is one butt ugly 99! I think that's partly correct, and works for deer, moose, etc. However camo is a different thing when it comes to turkeys, ducks, etc. At least that's how I understand it. I guess I was thinking about people.
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Almost resembles the original thread.....
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Not mine either. Camouflage is an interesting thing. As I understand it, camo isn't intended to mimic any particular environment but more so to break up the lines of the thing or person it is hiding. It does so by masking the the object so it doesn't appear to have the recognizable patters, sizes, geometry, shapes, mass or what have you to the observer. And in that vein camouflage attempts to deceiver the observer into thinking the thing he is about to run into isn't even there. But that is one butt ugly 99! I think that's partly correct, and works for deer, moose, etc. However camo is a different thing when it comes to turkeys, ducks, etc. At least that's how I understand it. I guess I was thinking about people. Pffft, WTH do I know? i know if I dress in non local camo turkeys and ducks won't come anywhere near me. I should probably read more and get some science behind me, but instead just emulate what I was taught
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Birds have entirely different eyesight than humans. I'm not a bird hunter but I can understand why it would take something that truly blends in to fool most birds. I say most birds because all birds weren't created equal. From Damnesia's post it sounds like ducks and turkeys have really good eyesight. Raptors do too. Non game birds maybe not.
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Birds have entirely different eyesight than humans. I'm not a bird hunter but I can understand why it would take something that truly blends in to fool most birds. I say most birds because all birds weren't created equal. From Damnesia's post it sounds like ducks and turkeys have really good eyesight. Raptors do too. Non game birds maybe not. I know I certainly can't camouflage myself from fish!
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try a mermaid or merman suit.
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try a mermaid or merman suit. LOL. you beat me to it!
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That's ugly too. What S99VG says is correct. The people in Scotland developed plaid clothing to break up their outlines so the limey soldiers couldn't spot them in the shadows. Those red and black wool shirts and jackets we all love do the same especially for critters that are color blind like moose, elk, deer, wildebeast, etc. There is some debate about whether proghorns are color blind. When we hid our deuce and a halfs in the woods on Camp Pendleton, we had to throw camouflage over that big black hole at the back of the bed cover so it wouldn't show to the enemy. Even negative spaces need camouflage since there are very few big black holes in nature. OK, there are cave openings. and how are caves discovered? by seeing a big black hole in the hillside! i have a couple plywood stocked rifles, one a 1895 marlin, and one a Gasp! Savage model 10! both are for bad weather when i dislike taking out my walnut. the only thing i have against laminated stocks is the weight, and its not Walnut! even have one plastic stock. those are just too darn noisy!
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I love the marlin TK and the later glenfield 30 s. Strip the faux walnut stain to the birch or beech? Blonde wood. I also had a 99 H with blonde fruitwood I thought was rather handsome color.
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Hey Fireball, how much for the featherweight???
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A lady at a gun show said she thought the prettiest rifle in the display was my blond stocked 1965 vintage 99E. I'm real sure there was a PE in the display too not to mention some other much nicer rifles than the E. We all have different tastes.
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try a mermaid or merman suit. LOL. you beat me to it! Trust me, a sight like that would injure your eyes for life!
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Years ago one company made the only laminated stock I ever really liked. They took a blank and sawed it in half in line with the bore and then glued the two pieces back together with the grain lined in opposing directions. They said it pretty much accomplished the same thing as a plywood stock but looked much better. I don't know if it accomplished the same thing but they looked better than plywood stocks.
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Good to see you gentlemen had fun on that rifle
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Sand off all the finish and stain it very dark. Then have a black hard chrome job done on the bead blasted metal. Be Well, Rustyzipper.
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Spoken like a true gentleman.
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My two cents on 'the plywood'/'laminate' stock is that it's too light as many have advised. While I'll always take and vote for a solid walnut wood stock any day over a laminate or plastic, I do have several Mauser K98k WW2 rifles with laminate stocks that are tough as a nail. Also have a Remington 870 Magnum Express 3" chambered 12 gu that I love for turkey, deer, and pheasant hunting that has a laminate stock, but it's a dark brown. The impressed checkering sucks, but I ignore it as much as possible. I don't abuse my firearms like I've seen some do over the years, but the finish on the 870 can take a hit that would destroy the looks of a pricier model. While a shiny blued barrel, nice grained finely finished walnut 870 looks nicer, the Express 870 is perfect for tough hunting conditions. I've seen alot of laminate stocks on the market in more brown and black tone colors that look nice, in fact ya can get them in about any color of the rainbow. I'll pass on the pink and green ones. The Savage stock that started this post doesn't have the original looks of a 99, I could live with that (maybe), but that light wood just doesn't cut it for me. Same goes for unstained maple guitar bodies, that blonde look just isn't appealing IMO.
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