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My old P64 Model 70. Been pretty steadfast through the years and hasn't ever bobbled. A dose of Corrosion X and the Legend keep the elements at bay. I totally agree. Plus ill throw in mauser 98's and my favorite m1917's
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Any one that I own, M70's, M700's, M77's, Mauser's, Marlin's, Savage's... Ive had a lot of rem 700 and savage extractors fail. They are by far the least reliable. I wont use a 700 anymore. They are like leupolds.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Pretty hard to argue against the New Haven Winchester Model 70, or a Mauser of good quality. Not finding fault with the newer Winchester’s, but, the New Haven’s have a great track record! Many good ones out there, but if I were forced to chose just one.....make mine a Win. Model 70. memtb
You should not use a rifle that will kill an animal when everything goes right; you should use one that will do the job when everything goes wrong." -Bob Hagel
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I'm with BSA: too many extractor failures with Savages. Enough that I keep extras on hand. Too bad, they shoot well.
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My vote is an original pattern M98 with the bolt shroud safety, and 2 stage trigger. No worries with the pre-64 70s I mostly hunt with these days though.
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In "firing test to failure" done by the US Army and later by allies in NATO the 2 that came out on top were (in order) the 98 Mauser and the SMLE Enfield. That may be but my SMLE broke it's extractor spring one day.
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I am stuck on CZ 527's for varmint and deer rifles.
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I have never really had an issue with a rifle hunting. Perhaps I'm lucky. If I had to pick just one it would be My '44 BCD Mauser 98K.
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My vote is an original pattern M98 with the bolt shroud safety, and 2 stage trigger. No worries with the pre-64 70s I mostly hunt with these days though. What Mike said. I believe the Mauser wins, but my go-to’s are a 280 and 9.3X62 on 1947 M70 actions.
Anybody who seriously concerns themselves with the adequacy of a Big 7mm for anything we hunt here short of brown bear, is a dufus. They are mostly making shidt up. Crunch! Nite-nite!
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Model 70 SS Classic Action, with original open trigger design. McMillan Stock. Likely in 270, 7mm Mag, 30-06, 300WM or 338WM.
Next in-line is a BRNO or CZ550 with integral bases.
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The closer you are to a Mauser 98 the better off you are for bolt actions. Not much to screw up on a single shot either. Double rifles evolved for a reason. A back up rifle a few parts and an extra scope will take care of most situations.
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I recall someone who used to post here sayin AI and tikka in a similar thread a while back.
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I will stick with the Model 70. I have a New Haven 338 WM that I upgraded the extractor and had the trigger slicked up that is 100% reliable. I’ve used It to take Grizzlies a couple of times. My other Model 70 is a pre-64 in 30-06 that is just as reliable. For me, the Model 70’s are hard to beat. I like the 98’s, and have had numerous FN’s that I’d consider just as good.
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Six pre-64 Model 70s backed up by Winchester early Model 71s in .348 WCF. On rough country or foreign/African-Alaskan hunts, carry two rifles. Gunsmiths may be too far away. The early Model 70 "Rifleman's Rifle" is as tough as an M-1 Garand.
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What would be the go to rifle if you were hunting in a remote place and had only one rifle. Im talking about brand and model not cal . I don't mean to be smart at all. I've been hunting deer and 'whatever' since 1974....46 yrs. SO FAR I have not had an UNreliable rifle. IF I had, I would not have kept it. Win 94, 70s, Rem 700s, Weatherby (1), Howa s, Ruger 77s, Tikka s, Savage 99 s ?maybe 1 or 2 other brands I can't remember. FMD..... Fading Memory Disorder. Jerry Exit add : BBR & BLRs
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My go to meat gun is a Winchester 670 tricked out. Bedded n floated, , stamped checkering cut with checker tool, boiled linseed oil finish, sandblast blued. Later 670 with m70 safety on bolt.
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Stainless synthetic Ruger 77 MKII or Hawkeye.
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All I have are some form of pre 64 model 70...so that is my reliable rifle.
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Admittedly,I've only (2) receivers over 30,000 centerfire rounds(5 and 6 barrels each) and both are 700's. I've had more issues with CRF,than anything else...despite letting them in the mix.
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