I carried one in Astan when all the Army saw fit to send me with was a 9mm. They're good, but not great. The bolt doesn't lock open after your last round, the only way you know you're dry is that it won't go bang. A load of ammo is heavier than the same load in 5.56. We all like to think we're superman, but cutting weight anywhere is good for the long game. The safety is a PIA, you need to remove your hand/finger from the pistol grip/trigger to flip it to safe. Consequently many of our local friends just carried hot, really hot...and ND's were rampant. While way easier to maintain and operate dirty, they're not magic, you still need to give them a little cleaning and maintenance. Plan on an aftermarket pistol grip at least, they're built for small hands. Regarding bullet damage, you don't want to get shot with anything, but I've heard and read docs say the faster 5.56 causes more trauma. But, if you need a cheap bullet hose, and some situations do, they're great for that.
Why is the SKS always overlooked in these discussions? I believe they are a better built and less expensive option to distribute 7.62 projectiles.
The SKS seems more like a main battle rifle than an assault rifle to me. I like aimed fire better than spray and pray, but you don't want to be hit by any high velocity projectile regardless of where is came from or how is managed to intersect with your body.
I have used them in a war zone, taught classes w/ them, owned many and have sold them all. Decent rifles but not infallible. They were a good practical choice when they and their ammo were cheap if you just wanted a hi cap rifle for teotwawki. Most serious users prefer ARs .
YMMV
mike r
Don't wish it were easier Wish you were better
Stab them in the taint, you can't put a tourniquet on that. Craig Douglas ECQC
Seems ironical that a weapon conceived for cheap mass proletarian manufacture now generally costs more than a basic example of it's primary western competition. Economies of scale and entrepreneurial innovation have turned the tables. Capitalism wins again!
On the 'stacking' more ammo cheap, well 5.56 ammo was as cheap as hell for a long time, it's our service round. So I expect a lot to be around and found if needed.
Adding a couple of uppers/rifles in 7.62 for 'cheaper' ammo is akin to spending $40k that gets 40mpg over your current vehicle that gets 25mpg.
The money spent on other [bleep] could go straight towards the [bleep] you already own. If the day comes that 7.62x39 is our service round, I don't want to be around. Besides, you'd be in some prison and your gals would have been raped and bred
Its very interesting to me that you would say that.
Hundreds, maybe thousands of wankers tried to kill me with the AK and failed miserably. Doesn't mean they didn't connect now and again but end of the day they died and I didn't. I don't think they could'a hit a barn from the inside on purpose.
Put another way, they are heavy, generally lack precision and the AR or M-something is a better platform all the way around. And I can tote more loaded mags than an AK user.
I am..........disturbed.
Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain
Used both. Training and Real. Either or in the right hands will kill. I will probably get an A2 someday. Either a windham or a stag. AR,s kinda bore me. "Built" a pretty good iron sighted M4 clone about 5 yrs ago. Grew bored with it , sent it down the road.
Earned a living with one from A1,s A2,s and M4,s for a looooong time. Funny thing is I find myself at ranges out shooting guys with AR,s frequently. But I also help out alot of guys at ranges with AR and AK platforms. In my nature to not condone fugged up stuff and help to improve people,s shooting. Haven't had anyone go away not improving yet or insulted or mad. Tactful approach to people . Teach , coach , mentor. Most of us are on the same side as firearm owners anyways.
This is a Type 3 AK47 Bulgarian Arsenal SLR 100H receiver with a Hungarian AK 55 mil barrel and train. Rare and desirable gun. I have posted about it alot on here.
It's very accurate and reliable. Aint had a hiccup yet in almost 3k rounds. Keep it clean. OCD about any guns cleaning.
I basically aquired it in trade for 275 bucks from a Walther G43 8mm I purchased. Made several post about that rifle on here also. Firm beleiver in pics or it never happened. LOL!!!!
5 major planets lined up for me that day at the gunshow. People were trying to gang bang my azz with various deals when I hit the floor with that G43. Didnt even get in a 1/4th loop. Just told the people I wanna check out the entire floor before I think deals being offered Some where ridiculous Some where GTG.
Made it around the show People asking this that and the other. Seen a dude had a Type 3 at a back table I knew what it was big time. Casually looked at it. finished my loop. Seen what needed to be seen . Heard offers.
Went back to the guy.
Talked, broke down the G43 showed him all the matching #,s. told him I was going out to smoke a cigg and for him to get on his smart phone and research the G43. I broke down the AK at the same time. Dude said it came outta a collection and had a 30 rd put thru it. Cleaned and stored. I 100% confirmed that condition on my inspection of it. Drew a small crowd of attendees and a couple of guys that made offers. Dude cleared off a section of his table so I could break both wpns down to detailed level ( not just field stripped) for inspection.
Told him their was at least 600 meat on the bone with the G43 in the trade, he was asking 900 IIRC for the SLR 100H.
Dude was waiting at the entrance for me when I came back in.
Buncha people watched me when I walked out to go smoke. Buncha people watched me and him walk away after the trade.
If I named my AK . it would be Natasha. Even though she has 3 fingers and sorta a unibow. I would pin her feet up by her ears, make her look like the trix rabbit and deep stroke the fugg outta her hard .....
Thats a bytching chinese type 3 56 dude has right their. Spike bayo intact also. Got some mod welded on for the bolt carrier handle. Looks like a dirty bakelite mag he has in it. Little mineral spirits make that mag pop again. That rifle would fetch 15 to 25k at least to a type 3 holder here in the states depending on its wear.
Hot hammer forged from the circle 10 factory. 4 companies made 922r here in the states Intrac imported from knoxville. Intrac mutated into arsenal houston with another company.
Then arsenal Usa Then arsenal lasvegas
Not a arsenal las vegas or arsensl usa imported 80% one. With milling done here in the states.
The arsenal guns milled and stamped and final assembled here in the US are excellent rifles also.
Their is a member on here who sent me pics of an akm. He was thinking of getting for 600ish earlier this spring. He knew it was An Arsenal/ Saiga variant of some sort.
Sent me pics . Bout schit my pants when I started looking at em. Arsenal Sgl 21/ak 103. Told him to take off the scope rail and take pics under it of the marks. Unbelievable......
Generation 1 Arsenal SGL 21 Legion made in Russia at the Izhvesk factory.
Imported in 08 09ish to get around some contract loop holes Arsenal had with arsenal Usa.
Its very interesting to me that you would say that.
Hundreds, maybe thousands of wankers tried to kill me with the AK and failed miserably. Doesn't mean they didn't connect now and again but end of the day they died and I didn't. I don't think they could'a hit a barn from the inside on purpose.
Put another way, they are heavy, generally lack precision and the AR or M-something is a better platform all the way around. And I can tote more loaded mags than an AK user.