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Certain elements out there want Americans to be in constant fear of imminent invasion from one external monster or another.

Ok. First I've heard that. Makes sense. That's thousands of tanks for training though. Man. Makes me think taxes are waaay too low. At least they are protecting our borders from illegal invasions. 🤔
Most that they'd do back for korean war training is take an old decommissioned plane and give those RC drones target practice with .50 bmgs.

The other explanations were things like, " To make a movie.". That was not cutting it.

This is a guns, shooting, hunting, outdoors forum. We all have guns. Lots of guns. I'm supposed to be afraid of guillotines? I have projectile weapons. Even if it was true, it's still retarded. Anyone seeking to conquer America and bringing in thousands of guillotines is retarded. Anyone afraid of a guillotine is retarded. If you are armed with a projectile weapon, a guy with a guillotine is screwed. If you are armed with a knife, the guy with the guillotine is at a severe disadvantage. If you are armed with a big stick, the guy with the guillotine is still going to have to fight you with a guillotine. Guillotines aren't even weapons. They are execution machines. You know what is WAAAY more deadly than a guillotine, which is widely owned and rampant in the US? A car.

HC,

Every year every other competent military, goes through what's called training evolution.

It starts at the squad level. Can everyone do their basics task, deploy a claymore, bandage a wound, conduct basic fire and maneuver, etc. For the most part, for real combat forces, the emphasis is on the fire and maneuver stuff. It moves from the two man units, to fire teams, to squads, platoon level maneuver elements. Of course the bigger the maneuver element, the more space it takes. Maneuvering regiment, brigade and division sized elements takes a lot of space, especially when maneuvering against similar sized OPFOR units.

Of course, there annual exercises are watched closely by interested adversaries. They take a lot of time, planning, logistics, and space. The complexity and intensity of there annual trains exercises and tell us a lot about the preparedness, and future intentions of a threat force.

Now lets apply these principles to the alleged 25 divisions of Chinese trained Narco troops on the Mexican boarder ready to invade California. Think of the logistical foot print that would leave. Just feeding an army that size required 2 million pounds of food per day.

What about the C3 (Command, Control, Communictions) foot print?
Communications from China to the equivalent of 5 full numbered armies, their 25 subordinate divisions, and all the subordinate units?

And they are "trained"? It's pretty hard to train them in any meaningful way and keep it a secret. Once you get above the platoon level, well, you need space for any kind of meaningful maneuver training.

And how are these troops allegedly equipped? Are the Chinese secretly sending over main battle tanks and artillery, or, are they bunch of AK armed light infantry?

What about Air Support, and artillery, Air defenses and ? Where are their fighters to establish air superiority over our F-22's and F-15's?

Last I checked, Trump's still President. How would you like to be the President of Mexico, when Trump learned you have a half million Chinese trained troops on your soil ready to invade California?

How do you think that would work out for Mexico?

How would that work out for China?

The entire premise is entirely absurd.

How did China get those thousands of ship loads of there Army to Mexico without our thousand of Satellites seeing them.

That is a Army about the size of D-Day it took 7000 ships to carry that out. How are they feeding an Army of 500,000 ?

Why have our Satellites not seen the Army on the ground?

By the way the US Army send car loads of Tanks and Armored Equipment to NTC every few months. I,m sure they are send the same thing to

Other bases. When National Guard units deploy there equipment goes by train and then by ship. So what I am saying you can not assume something

Is going on other than training or Army/ National Guard being moved to deploy overseas.

It is only June but we already have more contenders for KOTY than ever before.


mike r

Did you know its legal to own a flamethrower .

Is that some kind of catapult that uses gays as ammo?

You have to start early, because the perennial contenders are not resting on their laurels!

Antelope Sniper,

I see that I should have been more clear and detailed.
There's a misunderstanding.
I don't believe that there are chinese army ready to invade. It would be obvious and too hard to hide those numbers unless in perhaps mega sea transport to one of the trade ports. Even then, logistics, etc issues.
I agree with your analysis.

My statement was intended to be sarcastic concerning the irony of the immense (understatement) expenditure of wealth that it takes to carry out those huge exercises. YET, there's an ongoing invasion! Not from chi com troops, but of ILLEGALS as in aliens.
Before one of the members calls me a tin foil hatter again, let me be clear. I am NOT refering to those so called highly advanced critters that our evolutionist friends believe in. I'm referring to those who walk across the border and get jobs laying brick, working in the chinese restaurant s and sell phone covers at the mall kiosks.

The pentagram gets more wealth than any army in the history of mankind. Then the pentagram tells us that they need more of the fruits of our labor in order to protect us from their latest boogie men.
However, for all the wealth and power, the pentagram including but not limited to chief commander, will not stop the border flow. It flows like diarrhea and they are going to stop it with a wall that looks far easier to climb than one of the climb/repel exerises in basic.
The high school girl gymnasium should all get one.

I think we should double taxes to support our troops.

Lets triple what the pentagram gets and then maybe they will defend the borders. If we dont give it all to the powers that be its because we hate the troops.
After all we know that the troops don't get decent hospitals is because the department of war just doesn't have the funds.

Here's an idea that any illegals can use to breach that awesome wall thats going up. Are you reading this Pedro, because our leaders know that latinos, and middle easterners can't invent such complex tools.

Get a piece of cheap steal pipe and a rope.
Tie it half way down the pipe.

Now tie knots along the length.

Hand it to your children and time which one can climb the smart gringo fence fastest!

Make a FUN game of it!

Family fun and fitness for under $5 USD. Free if you look around. A chair leg would work.

Merica!

No HC, it's me who should of been more clear.

The later parts of my explanation were not directed at you but OP and few nutters who think this story is plausible.

As for the illegal invasion we've experienced at the border, that's not our militarys fault. They don't make the policy that allows it. The proper blame rests upon the political wing of our government.

Laughing. Utter and complete BS

Public executions, hangings, witch trials.... sounds about right, thanks for bringing this to our attention....

Thousands of guillotines? Where do they store them? With all the FEMA coffins?

Don't forget the half a million Chinamen ready to invade California....

Agreed.
It's not their fault.
I just get tired of the politicians manipulating everyone and begging for money like a TV preacher, saying that the reason they can't do something right is the lack of money..... while the big brass behind the scenes and contractors make more $ than they could possibly use. Then say the pay and health care is our fault, not the politicians, pentagram and powers behind the scenes.
The soldiers and sailors aren't allowed any say one way or another. They get used and tossed aside by an evil system IMHO.
Didn't want to go off on a rant. LOL!

Root Beer of course,

what a silly question.