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Formaldehyde? I used to know a retired guy who went to work part time for a funeral director. He'd worked all his life for Wonder Bread. He told me that the 1st time he assisted with an embalming, he recognized the fluid as the same stuff they used as a preservative in bread. Embalming fluid is largely formaldehyde with a few other ingredients. I guess that if you eat enough Wonder Bread, you'll keep forever. Must have been a really long time ago, or maybe just in a way different part of the country. I worked for Wonder Bread (Continental Baking) in the mid 80's and there was no formaldehyde anywhere around the plant. Might be he smelled something else in the embalming compounds that smelled similar to what was used in baking?
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In Vietnam, Bier 33 (bomeebom) local beer was said to contain formaldehyde. Dont know if that was true or not, stuff tasted like hell anyway.
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Formalin is used in liquid smoke as a preservative...
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We use formalin to treat our fish for trichodynia. Its some nasty stuff!
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formaldehyde use in the funeral business has decreased drastically as it causes nasopharyngeal cancer
lots of substitutes.
DMSO with other additives.
various sulphites
acetic acid with additives
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the bakery incidence was probably due to the use in both instances of various methyparaben types.
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I love wonder bread
It was the only high class component of my daily mayonnaise sandwich dinner mama fed me.
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Our fetal dissection pigs in 1983 were preserved in Wardol I’m petty that’s what was on the little foil hot dog wrapper they were in.
I wonder if that was an offshoot of formaldehyde.
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We use formalin to treat our fish for trichodynia. Its some nasty stuff! Have used a lot of it in the fish industry. Egg treatment, parasites. Nasty crap if you ask me. One place I had to show the bosses I could get the same and better results with salt on our fry and cut back on using the stuff in the hatchery building. Resistant to change they were, at the expense of my health and anyone else around when I was treating. I like salt!
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Geno, you’re supposed to say “I’ve worked at Wonder for over 52 years”
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formaldehyde use in the funeral business has decreased drastically as it causes nasopharyngeal cancer
lots of substitutes.
DMSO with other additives.
various sulphites
acetic acid with additives
big list
the bakery incidence was probably due to the use in both instances of various methyparaben types.
In the 90's its use in biology was being drastically reduced too. I always wonder what might have caused some renal cell carcinoma I had removed. Biology? Cleaning car parts in gasoline and diesel? Exposure to lots of other hydrocarbons? Pesticides in the "olden days"? forgot, 20+ years of smoking and drinking............along with all that other stuff..................might have had some effect?
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The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men.
In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
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formaldehyde use in the funeral business has decreased drastically as it causes nasopharyngeal cancer
lots of substitutes.
DMSO with other additives.
various sulphites
acetic acid with additives
big list
the bakery incidence was probably due to the use in both instances of various methyparaben types.
In the 90's it's use in biology was being drastically reduced too. I always wonder what might have caused some renal cell carcinoma I had removed. Biology? Cleaning car parts in gasoline and diesel? Exposure to lots of other hydrocarbons? Pesticides in the "olden days"? forgot, 20+ years of smoking and drinking............along with all that other stuff..................might have had some effect? no doubt was synergistic. But think of it in a different way for a moment. your are 3 different people, the physical, the psychological , and the immunological that last one does what it wants, and the other have to get in line with what it does once it goes hyperactive , lots of outcomes. cancers are all hyper immune states.
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Geno, you’re supposed to say “I’ve worked at Wonder for over 52 years”
No, for me it's a Wonder I worked for 52 years (counting paper routes/lawn mowing/weed pulling/bottle collecting etc)
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In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
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yeah, that immunological system stuff screws with my guts at times. Relatives have skin issues.
It's fun being a living breathing human organism somedays!
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In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
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Formaldehyde? I used to know a retired guy who went to work part time for a funeral director. He'd worked all his life for Wonder Bread. He told me that the 1st time he assisted with an embalming, he recognized the fluid as the same stuff they used as a preservative in bread. Embalming fluid is largely formaldehyde with a few other ingredients. I guess that if you eat enough Wonder Bread, you'll keep forever. Must have been a really long time ago, or maybe just in a way different part of the country. I worked for Wonder Bread (Continental Baking) in the mid 80's and there was no formaldehyde anywhere around the plant. Might be he smelled something else in the embalming compounds that smelled similar to what was used in baking? I said I USED to know...like 30 or 40 years ago used to. There have been a lot of changes in the world since then.
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We use formalin to treat our fish for trichodynia. Its some nasty stuff! Have used a lot of it in the fish industry. Egg treatment, parasites. Nasty crap if you ask me. One place I had to show the bosses I could get the same and better results with salt on our fry and cut back on using the stuff in the hatchery building. Resistant to change they were, at the expense of my health and anyone else around when I was treating. I like salt! Saltwater is definitely a better option! Wish we could use it here but we are quite a ways up the creek from good saltwater. A few of the hatcheries I've worked at have pumps though and they utilize it. Hatch is so much easier with some saltwater in the mix.
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Have worked at a couple of resin plants that produced their formaldehyde base from methanol. Crazy chit. One process roughly equates to heating it up and flashing it over a bed of hot silver. Magic.
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And I thought you had gotten desperate and were eating the dead... mixing formaldehyde and ammonia will give a relative non-toxic mixture of methenamine , if the formaldehyde has not been oxidized to formic acid which is probably what you are smelling, especially if it has been sitting on hot concrete.. also there will be other oxidation products.
depending on the ratio of what is left the formic acid would also neutralized by the ammonia.
you may want to check with a local HazMat team. Hazmat teams are typically taught to flush with large quantities of water... Unless a truck of pure sodium [s] tipped over it is usually a safe bet... Probably not in your best interest to call someone who will file a report for: "a release of an unknown quantity of a substance the Socialist State of California has classified as a carcinogen"... The broken container might also provide some suggestions...
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Calcium chloride. You might have some in the form of de-icer. That’s what the hazmat crews would use.
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Insnt methlamine something they use to make crystal meth?
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