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9,3 x 62 Mauser vs. .270 #15036983 07/10/20
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Political furor got me thinking on a different protagonist front...


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Re: 9,3 x 62 Mauser vs. .270 [Re: CashisKing] #15037021 07/10/20
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Two totally different approaches to a hunting round. One is for large and dangerous game, which sacrifices flat trajectories for devastating stopping power, while the other is for lighter less or non-dangerous game, which sacrifices stopping power for flatness of trajectory.


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Inside 300 yards.. I chose 9,3x62


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Originally Posted by Northman
Inside 300 yards.. I chose 9,3x62

Designed for killing African lions, used mainly for the purpose of protecting livestock from them. But would be a great American big game round, too.


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Re: 9,3 x 62 Mauser vs. .270 [Re: CashisKing] #15037027 07/10/20
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Aren't you a little late? The 9.3x62 is 115 years old. The .270 is 94.


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Re: 9,3 x 62 Mauser vs. .270 [Re: CashisKing] #15037058 07/10/20
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I have a CZ 550 American in 9.3 x 62.

The most accurate rifle I own aside from my CZ 221 Fireball.

Love the firearm and love the cartridge.

I use it for MN Whitetails and it is an excellent round up to 300 yards.

I own a lot of rifles in a lot of different cartridges, but no 270. Don't want one either.


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I have both. I don’t do turrets, so for me the trajectories are pretty much the same out to 300+. Much beyond that, you’ll need to spin turrets no matter what you shoot most of the time. I’ve only shot deer with either one. Hard to tell much difference in the way they kill deer. If there is an edge in that department as far as I can see, it would go to the .270. And in my admittedly limited experience, they are both inferior to the 30-06 in that department.

But the 9.3 is undeniably cool and fun. I plan to go 9.3 and 45-70 this year for absolutely no good reasons whatsoever except for cool factors.

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Originally Posted by steve4102
I have a CZ 550 American in 9.3 x 62.

So you're the guy I sold mine to.


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Re: 9,3 x 62 Mauser vs. .270 [Re: JoeBob] #15037070 07/10/20
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Originally Posted by JoeBob
I have both. I don’t do turrets, so for me the trajectories are pretty much the same out to 300+. Much beyond that, you’ll need to spin turrets no matter what you shoot most of the time. I’ve only shot deer with either one. Hard to tell much difference in the way they kill deer. If there is an edge in that department as far as I can see, it would go to the .270. And in my admittedly limited experience, they are both inferior to the 30-06 in that department.

But the 9.3 is undeniably cool and fun. I plan to go 9.3 and 45-70 this year for absolutely no good reasons whatsoever except for cool factors.

The 9.3 was wildly popular in Africa among farmers worried about lions taking livestock. I would imagine, with soft points, it has superior lion charge stopping ability vs a .270.


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https://www.chuckhawks.com/rifle_trajectory_table.htm

Compare MPBR on light 9,3s vs. heavy .270

I can ring 400 yard steel (8") with factory 285 gr. PPU ammo 9 out of 10... glass is 1.5 x 6 Kahles. My reloads are 10 out of 10.

9,3m is amazingly flat for what it is.


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by JoeBob
I have both. I don’t do turrets, so for me the trajectories are pretty much the same out to 300+. Much beyond that, you’ll need to spin turrets no matter what you shoot most of the time. I’ve only shot deer with either one. Hard to tell much difference in the way they kill deer. If there is an edge in that department as far as I can see, it would go to the .270. And in my admittedly limited experience, they are both inferior to the 30-06 in that department.

But the 9.3 is undeniably cool and fun. I plan to go 9.3 and 45-70 this year for absolutely no good reasons whatsoever except for cool factors.

The 9.3 was wildly popular in Africa among farmers worried about lions taking livestock. I would imagine, with soft points, it has superior lion charge stopping ability vs a .270.


I’ll let you know when I shoot a lion that is after some of my cows.

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by steve4102
I have a CZ 550 American in 9.3 x 62.

So you're the guy I sold mine to.


I bought mine from 4ager...


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by steve4102
I have a CZ 550 American in 9.3 x 62.

So you're the guy I sold mine to.


Nope, purchased it new.

You should have kept it.


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Originally Posted by JoeBob
I have both. I don’t do turrets, so for me the trajectories are pretty much the same out to 300+. Much beyond that, you’ll need to spin turrets no matter what you shoot most of the time. I’ve only shot deer with either one. Hard to tell much difference in the way they kill deer. If there is an edge in that department as far as I can see, it would go to the .270. And in my admittedly limited experience, they are both inferior to the 30-06 in that department.

But the 9.3 is undeniably cool and fun. I plan to go 9.3 and 45-70 this year for absolutely no good reasons whatsoever except for cool factors.


This gave me a chuckle,


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Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by JoeBob
I have both. I don’t do turrets, so for me the trajectories are pretty much the same out to 300+. Much beyond that, you’ll need to spin turrets no matter what you shoot most of the time. I’ve only shot deer with either one. Hard to tell much difference in the way they kill deer. If there is an edge in that department as far as I can see, it would go to the .270. And in my admittedly limited experience, they are both inferior to the 30-06 in that department.

But the 9.3 is undeniably cool and fun. I plan to go 9.3 and 45-70 this year for absolutely no good reasons whatsoever except for cool factors.


This gave me a chuckle,


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The only thing in North America that the 9.3X62 is better than the 270 at is for hunting the big bears...............and plenty of them have been taken with a 270.

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I load my CZ 9.3 with 65gr BigGame and 286gr Partitions, 2450fps.


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Originally Posted by JamesJr
The only thing in North America that the 9.3X62 is better than the 270 at is for hunting the big bears...............and plenty of them have been taken with a 270.


True.... sorta, how about if you hunt deer where big bears roam?

I hunt with both and really like both


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I put my 9.3x62 together in 2000 for a 2002 Africa trip. As expected it performed very well with the 250 gr original X. That said my last bull elk dropped at the shot from my 270 Win Montana and the 140 gr TSX. The 30-06 works too as I helped a farmer in Namibia a couple of years ago. A 168 gr TTSX to the back of the neck,

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I've had both. Sold off the 270 and still have the 9.3x62. Both are great calibers and both have their uses. You can't really compare the 2 side by side since they are so different.

The 270 is great for deer sized game in open country. It shoot fairly flat and the bullets up to 150 grs (the heaviest factory loads) perform well on medium sized game and can be used effectively on larger game with very careful shot placement. It would be hard to find a better deer/pronghorn/sheep round. I sold the one I had because I also owned a 7mm Mag and it outdoes the 270 in every category and is a better choice for elk which at the time was my primary hunting quarry.

The 9.3x62 was developed for German farmers in Africa. As such it fires a fairly heavy bullet at moderate velocity. Most hunting ranges in Africa are reasonable short so you don't need a fast round for distant shooting. Additionally in Africa you never really know what you will come up to. One minute you may be chasing a duiker that weighs 30 lbs and come face to face with a big eland. The 9.3x62 can handle both. The 285/286 gr bullet that is most common will punch through the duiker without opening up so you would have a .366 hole in and a .366 hole out. But that same bullet at the moderate velocity it is loaded to has great penetration and can cleanly take the eland which may weigh 2000 lbs. With solid bullets up to 320 grs the 9.3x62 can efficiently take the big stuff like elephant/rhino/hippo etc... Of course anything I just said about the 9.3x62 also applies to the 375 H&H. But the 375 requires a magnum length action which means the rifle will be heavier and in the old days, more expensive. The 9.3x62 was designed to work in standard Mauser actions and could be made cheaply and sold to the average guy that wanted one rifle for everything.

As stated, I kept the 9.3x62 because I found it so effective. I also have a 375 H&H but I can't remember the last time I shot it. I have used the 9.3x62 exclusively for the last 10 years or so. It works that well. The 270 also works well but there are better rounds that do the same thing. Back in Jack O'Connors day that wasn't true, but it is now. But nothing really improves on the 9.3x62 which is why it has been around since 1905. It's just a shame that more Americans haven't tried it.


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