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OK here we go Trophy list is Impala, Warthog, Blue W/B, Plains Zebra, Kudu, Eland
Rifle is .300 Weatherby
All else equal, velocity, accuracy etc. Swift A-Frame or Nosler Accubond?
No Barnes, Woodleigh, etc etc comments please. I have these two bullets on hand and the rifle likes them, Thanx Kevin
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I'd take a good hard look at the 200gr Accubond.I've heard good things about them,I can push them to 3000fps out of my 300 Win Mag.,the bullet has a very good B.C. at .588.Here is a chart based off a 200gr Partition with a .481 B.C.,The Accubond at .588 will do a little better. https://load-data.nosler.com/load-data/300-weatherby-magnum/
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Ask your PH. I'd be very surprised if he didn't recommend the A Frame over the accubonds
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Whichever shoots better, don't over think it. First choice A-Frame but if shots are longer which they usually are not in Africa then the Accubond. You didn't mention the weight, it will not matter but for Eland my pick would be the 200 grain model.
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A-Frame then Accubond but either should work just fine.
I have to admit all of my African animals fell to Barnes out of 300 H&H, 375 H&H, and 404 Jeffery.
The Barnes outshot the Partition and GMX out of the 300. Barnes outshot the GMX out of the 375. Barnes outshot the A-Frame out of the 404.
I would shoot the A-Frames and Accubonds in 180 and 200gr weights and go with what your rifle likes.
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They are both good bullets. Load and take both, make up your own mind and report the results back here.
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Based on having used the Nosler Partition 180 PPT in a 300 WSM on all those animals, I would favor the A-Frame, . The controlled expansion works, providing sufficient penetration, as I would expect the SAF would as well.
Using your 300 on the WB, zebra and eland would favor the SAF construction IMHO.
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Swift A-Frame!
I've used both and the Swift wins.
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They are both good bullets. Load and take both, make up your own mind and report the results back here. ^^^ This ^^^^
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loaded A-Frames for both the '06 and the H&H on my last trip. No drama using either. Just wack 'em and stack 'em.
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Of those choices, A-Frame all day and everyday.
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I don't know crap because I've never used any of those bullets and have only hunted one game species that would require a bullet that stout. But keep writing and I'll keep reading and learning.
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I don't think you could tell from the dead animals which of the two bullets was used. The important things are that the rifle be CRF, and load be capable of grizz defense.
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I don't think you could tell from the dead animals which of the two bullets was used. The important things are that the rifle be CRF, and load be capable of grizz defense. Good bud killed a 41" cape in Zim last year with his .416 Rigby RSM Ruger. PH carried a PF M-70 .416 Rem; he liked the RSM, but said it was too heavy. So, from what I hear and read, PH's are less CRF sensitive than many here on the Fire. PF rifles actually do kill stuff... Evidently, PH liked his lighter weight M-70 PF .416 Rem more than the "better", heavier .416 Rigby, CRF Ruger RSM... Guess he figured he packed it a lot more than he shot it. And, I'm sure the RSM is a better gun than the PF M-70, costs more for sure. DF
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None of the critters on your list are hard to kill with a well placed shot, use the one you like the most or load both and take both. Rio7
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If it were me, I would go with the A-frame. Hunting buddy used A-frames on our first trip to Zim and they worked great on everything.
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Curious about which bullet you would recommend for the PG cited?
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I've had considerable experience with both bullets, and they penetrate very similarly. The AB doesn't retain quite as much weight, but doesn't open as widely as the A-Frame--and frontal area makes as much difference as weight
My only comment would to be avoid shooting a trophy eland bull in the heavy shoulder bones with either one. They are BIG animals, and I have seen their shoulder joint stop .30-caliber bullets in that weight range. However, wouldn't hesitate to put a monolithic from 180 up in the same place.
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