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A few points: A typical Presto canner in the 15"x15"x15" size has nearly 1,000 square inches of surface area. At 10-15 psi there is tremendous potential inside. Having seen the results... Another common mistake is trying to speed cooling with snow or ice, don't.
There is a chemical reaction involved in browning meat. It has to be hot, much hotter than boiling. That requires a relatively dry frying pan and lots of small batches. Crowd the pan and you end up with boiled meat. That adds nothing. Giving anyone unable to taste difference the benefit of the doubt they likely did not truly sear the meat. Browning bulk ground meat is slower, requires care to keep the liquid level down in the pan, and the extra surface area takes more messing around.
The head (extra space) in the jar is what builds vacuum and seals the jar. Cans do not require head because they are mechanically sealed before cooking.
I canned several bears this spring in retort bags. For meat there is no comparison between jars and retort bags.
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Have one of my 95 year old mother's here at the house. National from I think Wisconsin. She has another with her. Spent last week with her and we canned 33 quarts of homemade vegetable soup. Does not get better than that!
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If anyone has tested properly browned meat against raw after canning and cannot taste the difference they should just go to buying Alpo...
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flave, would you can Iquana? That I know I wouldn't do.
Just the heads.
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If anyone has tested properly browned meat against raw after canning and cannot taste the difference they should just go to buying Alpo... I’d love to see the dumb asses that say this take the Pepsi challenge.
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I have been pressure canning elk for several years, and I found that browning isn't necessary, but it still works just fine. I don't brown it anymore, and I notice no difference in flavor. I bought my new canner off the internet (Presto I think) and at first it scared the crap out of me, but after a few times it is very easy. I think the LEM catalog has the kind I have, but I found it cheaper but cant remember where. I just remembered I have some elk roasts and steaks left over from last year!!
PS after re-reading this topic above, I have never canned ground meat, but I think I would brown it myself. I am sure it would work both ways.
flave, would you can Iquana? That I know I wouldn't do.
Not deflave, but if I was to try it with iguana............it would be barbequed.....................from Tiajuana Honestly, y'all been giving me ideas on how to spend more money. Don't need that, maybe I should stop reading.
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If anyone has tested properly browned meat against raw after canning and cannot taste the difference they should just go to buying Alpo... I’d love to see the dumb asses that say this take the Pepsi challenge. Guessing Alpo should be on your shopping list henceforth and forever...
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The prime rib that I cook to a perfect Medium-Rare temperature in a Sous Vide water bath gets browned with a Propane weed burner after the proper internal temperature is achieved. It's a nasty-looking gray color before I hit it with the weed burner for about 15 seconds.
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Guessing Alpo should be on your shopping list henceforth and forever... I’m sure that living in an Indian village develops the most discerning of palettes.
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The prime rib that I cook to a perfect Medium-Rare temperature in a Sous Vide water bath gets browned with a Propane weed burner after the proper internal temperature is achieved. It's a nasty-looking gray color before I hit it with the weed burner for about 15 seconds. Thats literally gayer than aids.
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The prime rib that I cook to a perfect Medium-Rare temperature in a Sous Vide water bath gets browned with a Propane weed burner after the proper internal temperature is achieved. It's a nasty-looking gray color before I hit it with the weed burner for about 15 seconds. Thats literally gayer than aids. Agreed. Sous Vide is for virulent homosexuals on a coke and cock bender.
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Guessing Alpo should be on your shopping list henceforth and forever... I’m sure that living in an Indian village develops the most discerning of palettes. Having spent quite a bit of time in various Indian villages I can understand the concept, but still taste the difference...
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The prime rib that I cook to a perfect Medium-Rare temperature in a Sous Vide water bath gets browned with a Propane weed burner after the proper internal temperature is achieved. It's a nasty-looking gray color before I hit it with the weed burner for about 15 seconds. Thats literally gayer than aids. Really?
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I don't needs no sous vide bs. I don't needs no sous vide bs. I don't needs no sous vide bs. I don't needs no sous vide bs. I dont need no sous vide bs.
So, I just need a chamber sealer?
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Having spent quite a bit of time in various Indian villages I can understand the concept, but still taste the difference...
Well, I doubt I'll ever meet you but I have known two other crusty old bastards that claimed the same. They both got proven wrong. To each their own of course. I only post this info for those that are new to canning.
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To guys who eat road kill armadillo and call it possum on the half shell, properly cooked meat is probably as foreign a concept as screwing somebody other than their 12 year old sisters.
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The ole PrestoMatic 23 quart-o canner has not shipped yet.
Kinda wondering if I just spent 100 bucks to reserves the next one that comes in............about December time.
Giving them the benefit of the doubt of course.....I wouldn't want to jump to conclusions.......especially here.
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To guys who eat road kill armadillo and call it possum on the half shell, properly cooked meat is probably as foreign a concept as screwing somebody other than their 12 year old sisters. You need to change your handle. You've already been deemed a dumb fugk.
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The ole PrestoMatic 23 quart-o canner has not shipped yet.
Kinda wondering if I just spent 100 bucks to reserves the next one that comes in............about December time.
Giving them the benefit of the doubt of course.....I wouldn't want to jump to conclusions.......especially here.
I thought maybe you might do the order over the phone. LOL
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