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When do we see the group's?
I may not be smart but I can lift heavy objects
I have a shotgun so I have no need for a 30-06.....
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When do we see the group's? I've got about 50 rounds down it from 3 quick trips testing a different bullet each time. Been too damn hot........
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TB, CWD and Covid-19 , free so far.....
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Yes, been too damn hot is right !
TB, CWD and Covid-19 , free so far.....
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I wish I was sweating out Wisconsin and Michigan hot.......
Dog I rescued in January ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/yYDjsxrQ/IMG-0124.jpg)
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Down here it is called "air you can wear" temp and humidity are running neck and neck a lot of the time.
I may not be smart but I can lift heavy objects
I have a shotgun so I have no need for a 30-06.....
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Appreciate you sharing that - I never get tired of reading posts - and seeing related pics - like yours. Major kudos, Sir.
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I wish I was sweating out Wisconsin and Michigan hot....... That's OK, we'll be in shorts & flip flops with snow on the ground this winter, while your furnace is going full bore and you're wrapped up in your Slanket..... ![[Linked Image from images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com]](https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41v1Bv6jZ7L._AC_.jpg)
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aalf - what load combination are you running in your 6x47s these days? I had one built several years back (Pierce action, Jewell, Bartlien 1-7.5, McMillan HTG), and due to life intrusions, haven't shot it in at least 3 years.  In the process of digging through my gear/records now, trying to piece together what I had been doing (I am horrible in the record keeping dept). I seem to recall that the 105/108s seemed to rule back then, powered by H4350. Looks like I was concentrating on the Berger 115gr with Reloader 17 and CCI 450s, loaded well on the hot side of what the Berger manual shows. Thanks, mucho! Kaiser Norton
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That came together very nicely.
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aalf - what load combination are you running in your 6x47s these days? I had one built several years back (Pierce action, Jewell, Bartlien 1-7.5, McMillan HTG), and due to life intrusions, haven't shot it in at least 3 years. In the process of digging through my gear/records now, trying to piece together what I had been doing (I am horrible in the record keeping dept). I seem to recall that the 105/108s seemed to rule back then, powered by H4350. Looks like I was concentrating on the Berger 115gr with Reloader 17 and CCI 450s, loaded well on the hot side of what the Berger manual shows. Thanks, mucho! Kaiser Norton I've put together several 6x47's now, and all have worked so well with H-4350, that I've never had to look elsewhere. I've never been a fan of the 115 Berger. The BC doesn't best the 105 VLD or Hybrid by much, and if you point either 105 version, along with extra 100+ fps gained from being 10 grains lighter, equal or beats the 115's, while being generally being easier to tune. For reference, I use a .585 BC for the pointed Hybrids in my LR plinker. So far, I've fiddled with 105 VLD's, 105 Hybrids, and 108 ELD's in this barrel, paired with H-4350, sparked by Rem 7 1/2's.
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Thanks for taking the time to respond. Always helpful to get new information or a different viewpoint.
I have other options also, including H4350 and several bullets to try (105 VLD, 105 Hybrid, 108 ELD, 110 Matchking, and the 105 Scenar). Been in the basement all morning, cobbling some test loads together.....I'll find something useful, I'm sure.
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So testing began with three trips to the "range".
Targets were shot at 205 yards.
Wind was switchy, made worse shooting in a quarry, with it swirling from all directions at any time, & no flags.
Brass is several times fired 6.5x47 Lapua, annealed, neck turned, necked down, neck turned & annealed again.
Powder was H-4350 in half grain increments from 39 to 41 grains. Only went to 40.5 with 108's.
Rem 7 1/2 primers.
All bullets are moly plated, and seated 15-20 thou in the lands.
1st up was with 105 VLD's, groups ranged from .6 to 1 MOA. 41 grains gave 3129 ave.
2nd trip with 105 Hybrids, groups were .55 to .9 MOA. 41 grains gave 3136
3rd trip, with 108 ELDMs, groups were .360 to 1.4 MOA. 40.5 grains gave 3078
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40 grains looked promising with all 3 bullets, so I loaded up the remaining brass with 40 grains each, divided equally between the 3 bullets.
That gave me enough for two 5 shot groups with each, and a few sighters/foulers for good measure.
Along with testing the loads, I was also wanting to get all the brass shot once , and hopefully get the barrel settled in as well.
I've found in the past some barrels need upwards of 150 rounds before they really get going.
Conditions weren't the best with swirling winds, targets at 200 yards again, and 80*.
When the smoke cleared, no group of the 6 shot, stood out as a winner, all measuring 1 to 2 MOA.
At this point, I wasn't sure what to do next........
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I hate that feeling when leaving the range of "now what do I do"
I may not be smart but I can lift heavy objects
I have a shotgun so I have no need for a 30-06.....
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I hate that feeling when leaving the range of "now what do I do" It's not the 1st time I've come home and asked myself "Well, what did we learn today?" without answer. Not to despair, I always win...... 
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What is your next move Aalf?
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Proper bullet placement + sufficient penetration = quick, clean kill. Finn Aagard
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Next move.......
I tumbled the brass, annealed, full length sized, and went 2 thou tighter on the neck bushing.
Then did the same tests with both Bergers, H-4350, and switched to Fed 205M's.
Conditions were beautiful, 80* and almost zero wind. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/5uEPb4l.jpg) Interesting, in the top row, the 1st two groups were left of center, I gave the scope 1 click to move it over, next group was centered, 4th group was right, so I clicked it back to center up the last group, which topped at a 3143 fps average. Middle group at 40 grains had the smallest ES at 13 fps, 41 had 17.
41 grains with the Hybrids topped out at a 3144 fps average, with an ES of 3.
I finished up with a 5 shot group (center left) with 40 grains, VLD, & 7 1/2 combo. 1st shot went low, the last 4 went into a flat inch.
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looks like 40 and 41 both repeat,
all you did was change neck bushing size? interesting
I may not be smart but I can lift heavy objects
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