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They supposedly manufacture more machine gun barrels than anyone else In the U.S. They produce 5,000 machine guns a year, but they make 20,000 replacement barrels per year.


I too retained the original barrel.


What caliber is yours? You had some issues with yours in the beginning, right? I love mine, but the stock sits way proud of the trigger guard, probably 1/4" or so. Causes your finger to rub the stock when squeezing the trigger. I'll take a pic and post what I'm talking about. Not a huge deal, and understandable for the cheap cost, but if I bought a full blown NULA and had that issue, I'd not be happy.
I know I'm in the minority, but I like his stock more than the Montana.



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Originally Posted by jackmountain
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They supposedly manufacture more machine gun barrels than anyone else In the U.S. They produce 5,000 machine guns a year, but they make 20,000 replacement barrels per year.


I too retained the original barrel.


What caliber is yours? You had some issues with yours in the beginning, right? I love mine, but the stock sits way proud of the trigger guard, probably 1/4" or so. Causes your finger to rub the stock when squeezing the trigger. I'll take a pic and post what I'm talking about. Not a huge deal, and understandable for the cheap cost, but if I bought a full blown NULA and had that issue, I'd not be happy.
I know I'm in the minority, but I like his stock more than the Montana.


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I had issues with the way trigger guard and barreled action were bedded to the stock. I sent it back to Melvin and he fixed it. There was a period where he was super slammed and had lost some key employees. I picked the rifle up in person and got a tour of the shop. All's well that ends well.

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Will Melvin sell a stock without bedding/fitting it to a CLR?

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I read on an older thread he would, but it was from years back. Could call and ask, he answered right away this morning and talked with me for a good half hour.

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Will Melvin sell a stock without bedding/fitting it to a CLR?


He sold me a drop in about 5 years ago for my CLR in 7RM. It included a new trigger guard as well.

While IMO the original CLR stock was serviceable, the NULA is a very nice upgrade.

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We went with his standard stock & it did not need bedding. The trigger can be upgraded with a spring change and at one point Melvin would sell his version of a three stage trigger as a separate item, just the cocking piece only. My sons 270 shot fine with the Saco barrel. Also get a new firing pin spring, Melvin has the Wolf brand speed spring, the stock one has a reputation for being uneven and going out after a 1,000 shots or so.

Agree about the Colt stock but I wanted to be sure to upgrade before Melvin retires, we also got his version of desert camouflage which I like. Hard to say but I like the NULA/Colt as much or more than the Forbes I have, maybe because Melvin had his hands on it.


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Originally Posted by Tejano
We went with his standard stock & it did not need bedding. The trigger can be upgraded with a spring change and at one point Melvin would sell his version of a three stage trigger as a separate item, just the cocking piece only. My sons 270 shot fine with the Saco barrel. Also get a new firing pin spring, Melvin has the Wolf brand speed spring, the stock one has a reputation for being uneven and going out after a 1,000 shots or so.

Agree about the Colt stock but I wanted to be sure to upgrade before Melvin retires, we also got his version of desert camouflage which I like. Hard to say but I like the NULA/Colt as much or more than the Forbes I have, maybe because Melvin had his hands on it.

My thoughts too. I want to get this worked over by Melvin before he quits working on them.

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I have several CLRs and don't think that the stock is nearly as bad as some. My primary open country elk rifle is a CLR in 270 and it is probably among the 10 most accurate factory specs centerfire rifles that I've owned. I have thought about rebarreling a couple of the 30-06s, but haven't gotten around to it and, at my age, I probably won't.

I think that the CLRs are a good value at around $500, but I struggle with how much benefit I would get from a Mel Forbes upgrade. I have no doubt that Mr. Forbes makes a great stock and that a CLR/NULA upgrade is worth the cost to many, but I'm not convinced that the performance increase is commensurate with the cost for me.

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For what I payed for mine I think I’ll replace the stock. Still won’t have too much coin into it. Stock from Mel and pickup a used Remington trigger in the classifieds.

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Factory Colt stock. Any idea what a Nula stock and trigger guard weighs?
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~ 20 oz

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It can vary as Melvin will add weight if needed to achieve proper balance. Most should be +- 20 ounces.

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I had Melvin redo a CLR 3006 last fall. The finished weight with the Talley rings was 6lb 3oz. In comparison my Forbes Model 20 in 308 is 5lb 5oz with the Talley rings.

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The CLR is a Model 28 action even for the standard calibers. The Forbes a 20 or 24 action, so I guess the Forbes 24 should be right between those two.

Around six pounds feels good to me five might be too light. But I have not shot a Model 20 so don't know.


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I might have the barrel cut to 22”, save a couple ounces and have a fresh crown. Depending on the scope I should be 7lbs or a touch less. I’m happy with that.

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Originally Posted by 444Matt
It can vary as Melvin will add weight if needed to achieve proper balance. Most should be +- 20 ounces.


I’ve had at least three original NULA (270) or CLR replacement stocks and all three weighed 26oz.


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Originally Posted by Daveh
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It can vary as Melvin will add weight if needed to achieve proper balance. Most should be +- 20 ounces.


I’ve had at least three original NULA (270) or CLR replacement stocks and all three weighed 26oz.


An M20 308 I weighed a few years back was just a shade over 20 (20 and 2 oz?)
But certainly could be - Mel has been making stocks for what, 35 years? Bound to be plenty of variation during that time.

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Originally Posted by Daveh
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It can vary as Melvin will add weight if needed to achieve proper balance. Most should be +- 20 ounces.


I’ve had at least three original NULA (270) or CLR replacement stocks and all three weighed 26oz.

Just to follow up on this - I had a very wet NULA 24 I needed to breakdown to clean and dry last night - threw the stock on the scale and got 23.65 ounces. Might have been a bit waterlogged eek

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