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Probably the safer bet.


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Originally Posted by Sitka deer
Check with waterrat here. He has a couple and lives remotely on Lake Iliamna where they have lots of brown bears. The dogs do some amazing things.

Bernese Mountain dogs were mentioned by someone... they are a very sad excuse for a breed. The incredible health issues and early deaths added to the cost of buying one make them about the most expensive dog to own... and least useful.



I know nothing of the KBD's but remember that waterrat had posted about his in the past. He'd be the guy to talk to.

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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Probably the safer bet.




I have elk hunted the Payette National Forest. As well as fought forest fires all over the northern Rockies.

No question y'all have the elevation and damn Long Winters... but other than that West Virginia's about identical to the Sawtooth on typography... just way more rocky... thus the need for a very Nimble dog.

Jim, you might be a little pudgy.


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Hahaha!

Probably should get about a dozen Rhodesian Ridgebacks then.

They hate the color black.

No way the neighbors shoot those.


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Jim, are you sure it does not bother you to be so wrong so often about so many incorrect assumptions?

And are you sure that you're not actually from Oregon?

After all, there is no great shame in being an Oregon florist.

Flower arrangement has been considered a highly Noble profession for at least a decade now.


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I would look into getting the dog on Skype so jim can interview it before you buy, certainly you dont know what kind of dog you want. If jim says its ok, then that's the right dog. Best of luck.


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Originally Posted by CashisKing
Jim, are you sure it does not bother you to be so wrong so often about so many incorrect assumptions?

And are you sure that you're not actually from Oregon?

After all, there is no great shame in being an Oregon florist.

Flower arrangement has been considered a highly Noble profession for at least a decade now.


Am I not being serious enough here on the fire?

Here.....on the fire?

Why not post the Appalachian Anal Rape clip you are so proud of if'n you want to serious things up some.


Sensitive......sheesh.


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Hahaha! Too far?


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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Hahaha! Too far?


Not really... just kinda ignorant... or Oregonish


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Russo-European Laika dogs are another name that come from the Karelia area of Russia/Finland.

Just depends what side of the border or which club UKC vs AKC you look them up in.
Finnish ones are more of the traditional black/white coloring and can be bigger, the Russo dogs are more varied in black/white shading and can be smaller and more agile.
Good luck with your search and decision.
Went back to GSD's myself after scratching the Karelian itch.

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Originally Posted by CashisKing
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Hahaha! Too far?


Not really... just kinda ignorant... or Oregonish


Yes.....indeed.


So.....Mr. Serious......where do you live now?

Town or county?


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Country...

But not that bad... I can dail in two radio stations... three is I don't mind some static.


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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by CashisKing
Jim, are you sure it does not bother you to be so wrong so often about so many incorrect assumptions?

And are you sure that you're not actually from Oregon?

After all, there is no great shame in being an Oregon florist.

Flower arrangement has been considered a highly Noble profession for at least a decade now.


Am I not being serious enough here on the fire?

Here.....on the fire?

Why not post the Appalachian Anal Rape clip you are so proud of if'n you want to serious things up some.


Sensitive......sheesh.



You would make a good stunt double for Ned Beatty if you dropped a couple hundred pounds.

But I wouldn't bother... Deliverance II probably won't happen now that Burt is dead.

Heard Roy Clark is dead too... can anyone confirm?


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So Town then?

Yeah......


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Gentleman, very much appreciate the time you've invested in helping answer questions. In the end, KDBs and many of other large breeds will need more range and effort than our mountain in WV would provide.

While WV is raw and beautiful... it is obviously nowhere near as vast as Montana, Idaho or Alaska. And with the primary vermin being coyotes, nosey black bears and crystal meth rednecks... maintenance and training of such large dogs does not remain logical.

We will look at smaller breeds. Highly nimble remains paramount. The Mountain Cur dog was brought to my attention by a friend. They were born and bred in the Appalachian Mountains... and most of the breeders remain in the central eastern mountains.

Stumbled across one breeder in Wyoming if anyone in the northern Rockies has similar interest in the breed.

http://www.wyomountaincurs.com

Since this thread is no longer about KBDs... I will ask if you have information about the Mountain Cur breed or knowledge of reliable breeders to please contact me by private message.

Thanks, Cash


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KBD work as adverised,, ours are exceptional with lots of on the job training. In Alaska you can trail a wounded bear with a leased dog,,at least the dog lets you know when you are closing in. My wife handle's and I try to keep up with a 458 ready to go. https://imgur.com/m4H0NpXhttps://imgur.com/H9evhMZhttps://imgur.com/m4H0NpX


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Originally Posted by waterrat
KBD work as adverised,, ours are exceptional with lots of on the job training. In Alaska you can trail a wounded bear with a leased dog,,at least the dog lets you know when you are closing in. My wife handle's and I try to keep up with a 458 ready to go. https://imgur.com/m4H0NpX

https://imgur.com/H9evhMZ

https://imgur.com/m4H0NpX


Spaced out your pics... Nice looking family!

Nice looking bear!


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