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And school teachers think the government running education is great. And military members think following orders is honorable. And pharmaceutical companies think that people should take lots of pills. And climate scientists think that the coastal cities are all under water now due to catastrophic global warming.

I've got several relatives that are nurses, and have interacted professionally and privately with dozens of doctors, forming long-lasting relationships with several. They are not any more immune to the propaganda than the rest. They do what they are told, and if they don't, they lose their jobs or their license to practice. They call no shots, and make no decisions. It's all a matter of "approved procedure."

My wife is in the medical field, and she, along with all her little doctor buddies, think the hysteria, fear mongering and over-reaction of the liberal news along with leftist politicians & medical pundits is the biggest "hoax" perpetrated on us since Greta Thunberg.

Overflowing hospitals? My neighbor is an anesthesiologist and for the first time in his 20 year career, he has no work.

Some area hospitals have even discussed laying off nurses.

Hospital the wife works at has quietly furloughed about 35 nurses and bunch of non medical staff since the "pandemic" started. In their whole health system they have laid off a greater number and have even closed sone satellite physician offices......overwelmed they are not!!!

Aw, c'mon, man....

You mean all the chest beaters who post, "I cant wait 'til ANTIFA comes to my neighborhood so I can stomp some skulls," to, "Those commies better watch it. When does the real shooting start?" Those guys? The ones who wrap themselves in the American flag and carry the Constitution & Bill of Rights in their shirt pockets?

They're snuggled up in their basements under protective COVID tin-foil wrap. Seems like a bunch of 'em who hide bravely behind their keyboards are afraid to go into Kroger's without their face-mask and Purell sanitizer full body rubdowns.

So here's your chance to present the facts to us as to why we that see this as a political tool are wrong. Let's see these facts you are talking about. No you likely won't do that. People like you only want to insult those that disagree with you and spread lies and fear. So I'm calling you out to come here and prove me wrong.

Oh yeah?

Which state and hospitals?

Real what?

A real disease? Who is "denying" that?

Real bad for a small fraction of the populace? Who's denying that?

What is it that you're arguing about?

Is it your position that COVID 19 will spell the end of the human race without a quick vaccine? Remember, the 3 RN's in your family are seeing and treating only the most ill of millions who have contracted Covid. Same as those who work in prison corrections only see the worst of society. So for them them, the most severe cases are "real"?

So why don't you and I go over to this site that tracks COVID deaths and cases:

https://www.google.com/search?q=cov...368j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Day to day this thing jumps around like an EKG, which tells us that reporting and tabulating are not accurate day to day. However, from this you can see the weekly low and high and get a trend. Georgia had 2 deaths on Aug 3rd and 79 on August 4th then 13 on August 9.

Let's go back to the peak of the shutdown and peak of the "crisis". Georgia had 8 deaths April 25 and 84 April 27th.

You can deduce two things from this graph. 1.) the lock down didn't make much of difference and wearing masks hasn't made much of difference. If you will accept the opinion of the ER docs who agree that most deaths happen within about 3 weeks after exposure, we are reporting about the same numbers as April. 2.) The virus has had 4 MONTHS to spread since then. A much greater number of people have been exposed to this, but a lower percentage of infected people are dying.

Let me explain what is "real".

This virus is out there, and it's not going away any time soon. You can try and keep yourself safe from it, and your success will be at best temporary. Unless you have a Cold War era fallout shelter that you plan to hide in for the next decade, chances are, you're going get exposed. Just like the chicken pox in the old days. You can run, but you can't hide forever. Maybe New Zealand or some other island will let you immigrate and you can sequester there. Otherwise, mask or no mask, lock down or open society, COVID is has your name and is looking for you.

The denying going on here is those of you that deny that you and everybody else are somehow completely safe if you stay home, if you wear a mask, if you stay 6' away from every other human and they do the same. Does it help some? That is debatable on the individual level and folly on the societal level. At the very best, it takes a 24 month event and will make it 48+ month event. At best. Other denial that goes on is that people can hide behind closed doors, masks (bandanas? Ha!) and social distance and be fully protected. This thing is either highly contagious, or it's not. Which is it? If it is, you can run but you can't hide. If it's not, then all these measures are a farce. That's "real".

As for cases and fatalities, we're gonna get them one way r another. This is a disease. It jumped from bats to humans. New disease, no previous human exposure. With that, you better expect it will hit hard. Nothing you or I or Dr. Foucci can do to change that.

I AM. I have dug and dug for around 40 hours over the last several months looking for VERIFIED EVIDENCE and ISOLATED DEFINITIVE VIRUS MARKERS in any number of actual patients for a SEPARATE AND NOVEL CORONAVIRUS that is labeled "covid 19". What I have found is that those things don't exist. What I have found is tests that can't possibly test for some particular strain of coronavirus and can't test for any specific viral antibodies that are prone to give both false negatives and false positives at such a rate that testing becomes pointless. What I have found is a narrative twisted back and forth weekly, and statistics made from whole cloth, and fearmongering and panic and endless streams of BS just like this thread, but what I haven't found are conclusive evidences for each of the steps taken in this farce. What I have found most of all is utter ignorance about viruses and the medical industrial complex and about how much politics warps "science" at every level. People are lying, and people are going along with lies. That's what "covid 19" is.

There are likely many thousands of distinct viruses in each of our bodies right now, most of them in various states of inactivity. So the presence of any one virus or any particular group of viruses does not mean anything in regard to "infection". That isn't the standard.

No one seems to know the standard, but they are sure willing to make claims. A simple thought experiment solves this. Remove the endless "covid" fearmongering everywhere. Has anything changed? NO. Statistically, there are no more people dying this year of various respiratory illnesses anywhere than there were last year. It's just that simple.

Funny thing on the H1N1, I don’t remember Fauci doing pressers on that outbreak and stating how bad it was.

It’s just a flu, that hits old folks harder than others. I believe the CDC’s numbers are overstated. I’m just trying to live as normally as I can now, but I’m in CA which is playing politics with the virus
I’m not going to live in fear of this overblown epidemic, if it’s really an epidemic at all.

The COVID-19 hoax hasn't met the CDC's definition of an epidemic for quite a while even with all the inflated (fake) numbers.

And they damn sure don't want herd immunity because then their power ends.

No.

Over 40% of CV-19 deaths have been in nursing homes. The average life span on admission ot a nursing home is 6 months. Nearly 700,000 die in nursing homes every year.

Is the narrative falling apart?


This is pretty good....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbIBPJ3OTeg

This logic flies right over a covtard head

Herd immunity is another farce. How many people need to walk around with umbrellas before you don't get wet when it rains?

Does anyone think that accurate CV-19 information or data might be being deliberately obfuscated by elected or appointed officials of the government or industry?

Old Coot could never answer this either.

LOL

Thats correct. Where did you serve? Many hospitals in southern California are very full.