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Pretty sure I know the answer but which is more heavily constructed and likely to exit on deer?

Assume 3250 FPS MV and 100-250 yd impact behind shoulder......


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Looking at bullet cutaways the BT is heavier in construction, in fact it looks like an accubond without the bonding of core to jacket.

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For that application, I'd possibly consider the 140gr Accubond. IIRC, it's listed BC is the same as the 150gr BT but will be faster so fly flatter.

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Originally Posted by pointer
For that application, I'd possibly consider the 140gr Accubond. IIRC, it's listed BC is the same as the 150gr BT but will be faster so fly flatter.


+1 on that . I just got a 270 Bee and tried the factory 130 barnes and it shoots them really well . I am going to try the 140 accubond next.

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I have a load using 130TTSX at 3420 but that is easy...


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Ttsx for the win. Won’t blow up and will go through an elk as well at 400 yards


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Originally Posted by pointer
For that application, I'd possibly consider the 140gr Accubond. IIRC, it's listed BC is the same as the 150gr BT but will be faster so fly flatter.

I load for my good bud, going to 140 NAB's with his 270 Wby. 130's tear stuff up pretty bad, but deadly...

He's a big NAB fan after a great PG hunt in Africa, using 160 NAB's out of his 7RM.

He thinks going slightly heavier with the NAB may be about perfect for his 270 Wby. on WT's and hogs locally.

He could be right. 150's may be an option. We'll see how 140's perform.

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The BT between those two. It has a much better construction than the VLD.

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Bt will have a better chance of passing through, but I have had quicker kills with the VLD.

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If the deer drops dead right there, do you care if the bullet exits?

To answer your question, neither bullet is ideal under those conditions if your goal is an exit. Some other bullet would definitely be better for your purpose of high-velocity impact at relatively close range to produce an exit. If I were you, I'd consider my priorities before I considered which bullet to use.


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My experience is BT's tend to blow up if they hit anything significant... they kill fine, but make a mess... if it were me I would go with the Accubonds. I've found them to be as accurate in my rifles as the BT's but they are bonded and hold together better... Never tried the Bergers, but heard a lot of varying results with them so shied away.... besides, when I find something that works I tend not to experiment too much after that...

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Originally Posted by Daveh
Pretty sure I know the answer but which is more heavily constructed and likely to exit on deer?

Assume 3250 FPS MV and 100-250 yd impact behind shoulder......


There is literally no spot on a deer that one of those bullets gets a quick humane kill and the other fails.

I vote you use the BT because when a guy overthinks this bullet selection stuff they tend to have issues and then blame the bullet.

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Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by Daveh
Pretty sure I know the answer but which is more heavily constructed and likely to exit on deer?

Assume 3250 FPS MV and 100-250 yd impact behind shoulder......


There is literally no spot on a deer that one of those bullets gets a quick humane kill and the other fails.

I vote you use the BT because when a guy overthinks this bullet selection stuff they tend to have issues and then blame the bullet.

Just Sayin.


Understood...That ain’t me and I have never used a Berger so probably will some this year. Hardest part is finding something to shoot.......


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The Berger can disintegrate inside the deer. I don't like them for short range use as I don't like eating lead. The BT will only leave some lead around the bullet hole and the 140s have always exited on several deer. If an exit is imperative I would use a mono, bonded, or partition bullet.


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I use Weatherby ammo 150gr spire point. accurate in my Mark V 270wby. very deadly as well, good exit holes.

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Originally Posted by Sheister
My experience is BT's tend to blow up if they hit anything significant... they kill fine, but make a mess... if it were me I would go with the Accubonds. I've found them to be as accurate in my rifles as the BT's but they are bonded and hold together better... Never tried the Bergers, but heard a lot of varying results with them so shied away.... besides, when I find something that works I tend not to experiment too much after that...

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Older ones, for sure..BTDT and agree...

Current production?? My experience is much different.

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Originally Posted by Tejano
The Berger can disintegrate inside the deer. I don't like them for short range use as I don't like eating lead. The BT will only leave some lead around the bullet hole and the 140s have always exited on several deer. If an exit is imperative I would use a mono, bonded, or partition bullet.



^^^^This, I have been curious why the plain Jane NPT's have not been brought up yet. If a fella' doesn't need every last FPS he would be hard pressed to do better then a near max load of 7828 and a 150gr NPT. Plenty flat for the ranges mentioned and plenty tough. You might loose the front half of your bullet occasionaly..... If that matters. YMMV

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I have killed more critters with a NPT but this one doesn’t shoot them as well as others. Probably good enough.

At one time I said I would never hunt with any but a Partition but what fun is that....🤔


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Originally Posted by Daveh
I have a load using 130TTSX at 3420 but that is easy...


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