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Boy...things were sure better when strangers beat our kids! Right men???


Ha! You guys are wild.



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Originally Posted by Hastings
Taking prayer out of school didn't cause today's issues, entitlements without work played a big part.

This is very difficult to argue with.

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Originally Posted by Hastings
.. I think you and the rest of the atheists here stand a better chance at salvation than some of the loudest and surest bible thumpers. As a disclaimer, I am not atheist.. .


Why do you refer to me as being atheist?

Is that simply because I question and scrutinize
the christian narrative?


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Originally Posted by Starman
Originally Posted by Hastings
.. I think you and the rest of the atheists here stand a better chance at salvation than some of the loudest and surest bible thumpers. As a disclaimer, I am not atheist.. .


Why do you refer to me as being atheist?

Is that simply because I question and scrutinize
the christian narrative?

I apologize, I made an assumption. I also question.


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Originally Posted by antlers
Originally Posted by DBT
That's the fact of it.
You have a seething anger with those who choose to believe in God. It absolutely eats you up that believers choose to believe in God. And you try to camouflage it by using verbal placebos such as ‘rational’ and ‘logical’...neither of which any of your positions have proven to be. Your responses are emotional, not intellectual. THAT’S the fact of it.


That's delusional. Questioning assumptions and beliefs is a positive thing, a good thing. It should be standard practice.

I question, you moan You moan, wail and gnash your teeth. Each and every post a display of hysteria....all the while pretending that it's your opponent who is doing it.

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Everyone is an atheist when it comes to other peoples version of God....Christians don't believe in Allah or Mohammad, Jews don't believe in Jesus, neither believe in the Hindu creative principle Brahman.....

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Originally Posted by DBT
Questioning assumptions and beliefs is a positive thing, a good thing. It should be standard practice.
You use those words to describe your position without actually proving your position to be any of those things. You have proven otherwise.
Originally Posted by DBT
I question, you moan You moan, wail and gnash your teeth. Each and every post a display of hysteria....all the while pretending that it's your opponent who is doing it.
Describing your position as logical and rational and questioning doesn’t somehow magically transform your
angry position into logical and rational and questioning thoughts or ideas. You’re not an “opponent”.


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Originally Posted by antlers
Originally Posted by DBT
Questioning assumptions and beliefs is a positive thing, a good thing. It should be standard practice.
You use those words to describe your position without actually proving your position to be any of those things.


That's an infantile objection. To prove that you do question, you question. That's what I do. I have been questioning the assumptions of faith all along....which is why you go into denial, wailing and gnashing your teeth while making silly objections.

Originally Posted by antlers

Describing your position as logical and rational and questioning doesn’t somehow magically transform your
angry position into logical and rational and questioning thoughts or ideas. You’re not an “opponent”.



You still mistake questioning for anger. You are the angry one. You never address a point when it is raised, your manner of response is to go into attack mode while making wild accusations. You always engage with ad homs.

Let's do a test run; can you provide an argument for the validity of faith as a means to truth when faith based religions have contradicting versions of God or gods, ie, Brahman, Allah, Yahweh?

Can you do that....or are you going to say that it's an 'angry question?'

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Originally Posted by DBT
To prove that you do question, you question. That's what I do. I have been questioning the assumptions of faith all along....
You deliver statements as though they are questions. But you’re not really looking for the answer. And you attack and show your disdain with words such as “infantile” and “delusional” and “silly”.


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Have we ever seen a CF thread where Christians
don't go all wobbly and pear shaped in their responses?

When smoke and mirrors don't seem to work
they just double down on the same thinking
it will work... or they just run and hide from
pertinent questions regarding scripture and
the basis of their faith.

NO christian here seems willing or able to address
Jesus not meeting the O.T. messianic criteria to qualify
as the Messiah... (No big deal apparently)

Either the O..T. word of God is wrong or Christians
are wrong as to who Jesus was... Easy to see
why they avoid such enquiry like the plague.

No doubt many who identify as christian have
failed to show the necessary due diligence
before deciding what to believe... now its all
too hard or frightening to make such equiry. -
Far easier to just go on holding beliefs that
are convenient but highly questionable.
Its like a God gave them the precious capable gift
of a human brain and power to deduce, but they
prefer to act like sheep thinking there are prizes
for being ignorant.


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Originally Posted by DBT
You still mistake questioning for anger. You are the angry one. You never address a point when it is raised, your manner of response is to go into attack mode while making wild accusations. You always engage with ad homs.
Translation = Since it so clearly angers you that believers believe, you need to convince yourself that they’re ridiculous and deluded, and you need to alienate and dispose of them and their beliefs. That’s why you resort to extreme words like “delusional” and “infantile” and “silly”. You’ve raised no valid points. You try to distance yourself from your anger, but you fail. So you wrap yourself in protective labels like “logical” and “rational” and “questioning”.


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Originally Posted by antlers
Originally Posted by DBT
You still mistake questioning for anger. You are the angry one. You never address a point when it is raised, your manner of response is to go into attack mode while making wild accusations. You always engage with ad homs.
Translation = Since it so clearly angers you that believers believe, you need to convince yourself that they’re ridiculous and deluded, and you need to alienate and dispose of them and their beliefs. That’s why you resort to extreme words like “delusional” and “infantile” and “silly”. You’ve raised no valid points. You try to distance yourself from your anger, but you fail. So you wrap yourself in protective labels like “logical” and “rational” and “questioning”.


I can see why I called you an idiot in a previous thread. I'm not angry by the way, just making comment on your demeanor. It's funny and sad at the same time.


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Whatever you said...everyone knows you are a lying jerk.

That's a bold assertion. Point out where you think I lied.

Well?
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Originally Posted by DBT

Neither of you can respond without trying to make it personal.
That's the fact of it.


Well consider that god bothering christians
are trained to denigrate other people's gods,
but get ALL bent out of shape if you question
theirs.

They have the belief that they have a divine right
to practice their life as an insecure snowflake
bigot and want others to join them.

[Question:]

A Supreme intelligence allknowing allcapable being
that created a whole universe in six quick easy steps.

why would such with all that wisdom, knowhow,
and foreknowing, then employ a scatterbrain
christian sheep army to do things for him and
make a diabolical mess of it in the process ?...
yet on the other hand he employed the craftiest
most capable creature to ensure the people he
loved would fall into sin and suffering ?

Add to that he created and appointed an archangel
that would betray him and cause a war on his heaven,
then his protége son employed a member in his
ministry that would betray him.

Humans with any reasonable amount of good sense
and wisdom would like the ability to avoid grief and
strife in their lives.. . Yet they look up to a god that
purposely manifests such.

Logic says that Go'd is modelled after fallible man
by fallible man himself...in his own image.


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Originally Posted by antlers
Originally Posted by DBT
To prove that you do question, you question. That's what I do. I have been questioning the assumptions of faith all along....
You deliver statements as though they are questions. But you’re not really looking for the answer. And you attack and show your disdain with words such as “infantile” and “delusional” and “silly”.


I use the words infantile, delusional and silly because that is exactly what your manner of response looks like. No matter what I point out, no matter what the question, you deny everything and call it angry. That is why it looks infantile.

Plus you ignored the question I asked you.

Here it is again:

Let's do a test run; can you provide an argument for the validity of faith as a means to truth when faith based religions have contradicting versions of God or gods, ie, Brahman, Allah, Yahweh?

Can you do that....or are you going to say that it's an 'angry question?'

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Originally Posted by mauserand9mm
I can see why I called you an idiot in a previous thread.
And shortly before you resorted to name calling in that previous thread, you were boasting about what an upright, good, ethical, and virtuous person you were...and how you were that way ‘without’ God in your life. Your anger was a clear sign that you were out of your depth.
Originally Posted by mauserand9mm
I'm not angry by the way.
Yes you are. You were ‘then’ too. Confident and secure people tend to remain calm in the conversation. You blew a gasket. Maybe you’re not quite as clued up as you thought you were.


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Originally Posted by DBT
No matter what I point out, no matter what the question, you deny everything and call it angry.
Originally Posted by RayF
...thats par for the atheistic side of these debates. Deny everything. Admit nothing. Make counter accusations on irrelevant points.


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We are wrong, antlers. Its just our imagination that things in this country have been going to hell in a handbasket and so many young people are brainless morons wanting everything given to them and becoming communists and our nation's cities are following Selma and Detroit in a path to ruin.

And now we appear to have a goofball brain weak POTUS who is stupid enough to evidently believe in a made up creator and believes we are endowed with certain inalienable rights that we deserve. wink

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Originally Posted by antlers
Originally Posted by DBT
No matter what I point out, no matter what the question, you deny everything and call it angry.
Originally Posted by RayF
...thats par for the atheistic side of these debates. Deny everything. Admit nothing. Make counter accusations on irrelevant points.


Still avoiding questions, I see.

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RayF bombed out of this thread coz he dislayed
he doesn't know what he's talking about.

One may as well quote that crackers fool jX
for the same effect ... 😂


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Originally Posted by antlers
Originally Posted by DBT
No matter what I point out, no matter what the question, you deny everything and call it angry.
Originally Posted by RayF
...thats par for the atheistic side of these debates. Deny everything. Admit nothing. Make counter accusations on irrelevant points.


What exactly am I avoiding? Ray made claims regarding bible prophesy, but studiously ignored numerous failed prophesies, Tyre, Egypt, etc.

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