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This is gonna be a bad sumbitch.. Post pics
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Gunswizard, did your bullets hit the ground at 100 yards? Be Well, RZ.
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WTF kind of azzinine question is that ?
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I love my BLR takedown 358. For white tails I shoot either 180 or 200 grain bullets for hogs I move up to 225 and 250 grain round noses. Both give DRT performance. Have yet to recover any of them so don’t know about retained weight or mushroom diameter. It does what I am looking for which is short copious blood trails. Very little if any bloodshot meat. I am jealous of your pre64 featherweight. Guess I’ll just have to keep using my BLR 😁
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Recoil is about on a par with 30-06 shooting 180 grain bullets. My BLR has a nice soft sorbothane pad that soaks it up pretty well. With 250 grain bullets it is stout but I would say no worse than your 338-06 with 250 grains.
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Apparently you don’t know RZ very well.
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That's pretty cool. I believe you'll enjoy working with that one. My .358 was rebored from .308. It's shot about anything I've fed it reasonably well but with the 200 gr TTSX (and TAC), it turned into an exceptional shooter. Me, not so much. The Fwt, now with even less barrel steel (weight) is gonna be pretty light. How bad do these things kick? Mine has a brown, solid Decelerator pad, which should help some. I'm re-cutting the checkering, will have the stock ready to glass bed when JES gets his part done.. I removed the old bedding. DF It isn't too darned bad. Recoil is so subjective, if the Fwt stock fits you okay then I would think it would be really easy on you. I've been stuck on 225 Partitions with 748 for 2450 FPS in my BLR. Should make a slick little killer once you have it done.
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Appears the RZ is another of the forum's d ouchenozzles.
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Gunswizard, did your bullets hit the ground at 100 yards? Be Well, RZ. From another thread for those unfamiliar: the .358 is more of a 100 yd. cartridge.
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That's pretty cool. I believe you'll enjoy working with that one. My .358 was rebored from .308. It's shot about anything I've fed it reasonably well but with the 200 gr TTSX (and TAC), it turned into an exceptional shooter. Me, not so much. The Fwt, now with even less barrel steel (weight) is gonna be pretty light. How bad do these things kick? Mine has a brown, solid Decelerator pad, which should help some. I'm re-cutting the checkering, will have the stock ready to glass bed when JES gets his part done.. I removed the old bedding. DF I don't think recoil is bad at all and I'm not particularly fond of recoil. A gentleman above mentioned 30.06 with 180's - that's probably pretty close, maybe a smidge less IMO. I originally had a Brown Precision stock on mine so it was pretty light - I guess it depends on weight of a projectile you want to shoot and stock fitment. Never an issue for me with 225's and the 200's are a bit more pleasant.
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Gunswizard, did your bullets hit the ground at 100 yards? Be Well, RZ. From another thread for those unfamiliar: the .358 is more of a 100 yd. cartridge. The MJ meme cracked me up. LMAO
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LOL, you're going to have a little handful of dynamite DF, cool stick, if you load it to full potential, it's going to buck a little.
my Ruger stainless syn 358 with 200gr TTSX's at 2700 is a hell of a thumper.
edit: RL-10 will take you all the way.
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FFL sent from JES per my request for UPS.
I had already printed a copy of his web site, showed the UPS guy (who BTW knows me), told him it was a barrel being sent for a re-bore. He seemed OK with that.
Gun was already on a brown truck before I got the FFL, so I didn't need it. But you never know with those guys, which one shows up at the counter.
I replied to the JES email, said I'd go with 12 twist.
He gets the package Monday. I could have it back in a couple of weeks. Seems the UPS trip takes almost as long as the JES turn around time. We'll see.
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LOL, you're going to have a little handful of dynamite DF, cool stick, if you load it to full potential, it's going to buck a little.
my Ruger stainless syn 358 with 200gr TTSX's at 2700 is a hell of a thumper.
edit: RL-10 will take you all the way. Just so happen to have RL-10 and TAC, getting 200's from several makers to try. Have a box of 180 Speer FP's used for a friend's 35 Remington. Bet those would make an impact bumped up to .358 speed. The .358, reportedly, does interesting things with pistol bullets. I have the 170 Gold Dot and the 180 XTP for my 10mm. May try those just for grins. Another loony project. I'm sure you understand... DF
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LOL, you're going to have a little handful of dynamite DF, cool stick, if you load it to full potential, it's going to buck a little.
my Ruger stainless syn 358 with 200gr TTSX's at 2700 is a hell of a thumper.
edit: RL-10 will take you all the way. Just so happen to have RL-10 and TAC, getting 200's from several makers to try. Have a box of 180 Speer FP's used for a friend's 35 Remington. Bet those would make an impact bumped up to .358 speed. The .358, reportedly, does interesting things with pistol bullets. I have the 170 Gold Dot and the 180 XTP for my 10mm. May try those just for grins. Another loony project. I'm sure you understand... DF I'd bet those Swift A-Frames for a pistol would be wicked hard on a buck out to a fairly decent distance. Not likely to tear the bullets up and man, they'd plow a swath.
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Congratulations on your .358. Back in the '80's I had a push feed Featheweight rebarreled with a .358 Shaw barrel, a #3 contour, the slimiest contour offered for a .358. Well, it isn't a Featherweight any longer but, balances nicely and I've shot deer and my last bull elk with it. I used a Speer 250 Hot Cor running 2353 fps on the elk for total penetration and he was down and dead in about 25 yards. It looked like 5 gallons of blood on the ground from where he was shot to where he fell. I run a lot of cast bullets through it from 150 grains to 250 grains and the Lyman 358156 over 10 grains of Unique can't be matched for fun! Like shooting a big .22. Full power loads are similar to a .30'06 ie: not bad at all.
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That’s a cool rig Joe. Looks like it sees a bunch of use.
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Interesting, beretzs, will have to check that out.
Thanks, Joe. Great info and what I was wanting to know.
The .358 Win has been a sleeper. Seems a lot of .358 shooters are "coming out of the closet" so to speak, once it's mentioned...
Just kidding about the closet, but made the point
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Not a 358 shooter but I do have a 3 rifle fondness for the 9 X 57. They're often compared and in the old rifles that's probably about right. New rifles and handloads the extra 6mm of the 57mm case tells a different story. Be that as it my, if I was ignorant of the 9 X 57 the 358 would be on my list of those to own. I've really become fond of the 35's....or 9mm's.
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I see stuff on line, shooting pistol bullets in the .358 Win.
I can see cast bullets, .358 diameter.
But some have data for 9mm bullets and jacketed .38 bullets. Those are usually sized .356, .357, less than .358. I wonder how accurate an undersized bullet will be in a .358 bore.
Just wondering, not planning to get that crazy.
May try 158 gr. .358 cast revolver bullets, which reportedly shoot pretty well. Evidently lot of powder options with those.
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