My son is thinking we need to buy some body armor, any pro's and con's would be helpful. It's crazy to think that a person might actually have a need for such stuff but we hear that from the anti gun crowd on a daily basis.
About ten years ago, I saw a tremendous deal on a Level IIIa vest by Second Chance. The original seller was a European police agency (I think German) who over ordered by a very large number, and was stuck with thousands of extra brand new vests they needed to get rid of, so they sold them to a surplus dealer very cheap, and that dealer sold them to the public cheap. I think I only paid like fifty dollars for it. It was never issued. Brand new. I bought a trauma plate for it, and inserted it into the pocket on the vest.
I doubt a deal like that will come around again any time soon. It was a freak occurrence.
Careful buying vests that may be past their expiration date.
There is a suspicion out there that expiration dates on Kevlar vests are mostly BS. What matters is how long they've been in use. Just sitting in a proper store room doesn't take any time off their useful lifespan. Folks have done tests on supposedly long expired vests (even vests retired from police service where they were regularly worn) and they still stop all the calibers they were rated for.
Careful buying vests that may be past their expiration date.
There is a suspicion out there that expiration dates on Kevlar vests are mostly BS. What matters is now long they've been in use. Just sitting in a proper store room doesn't take any time off their useful lifespan. Folks have done tests on supposedly long expired vests (even vests retired from police service where they were regularly worn) and they still stop all the calibers they were rated for.
Granted.
I did test one that had ridden several years in the trunk of a patrol car. It was "crispy" when you moved it around and bent it. You could hear crackling noises, like a bread bag...
I strapped it to a post, and it still stopped a .357 Mag 125gr hp though.
Don't know men, may be when the time comes we citizens need to armor up, there 'will' be all kinds of weaponry in play, may be best to be able to stick and move with speed.
Soft armor is a crap shoot, no pun intended. Ceramic plate will stop 7.62x39 AP. A strategy that depends on body armor will eventually lead one to meet the fellow that shoots you someplace else besides the armor. Life in the shadows and surprising the enemy is a functional way to reach old age.
I am..........disturbed.
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Don't know men, may be when the time comes we citizens need to armor up, there 'will' be all kinds of weaponry in play, may be best to be able to stick and move with speed.
If we ever get to the place where it’s 110% full-tilt barrels are hot in a community. Vests capable of mitigating rifle rounds would be counter productive to being able to move with speed and agility.
I would definitely wear a class 3a soft armor vest during the above situation. Movement is almost unrestricted and 9mm fired on a street will be as common as bread and butter is on a kitchen table.
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Don't know men, may be when the time comes we citizens need to armor up, there 'will' be all kinds of weaponry in play, may be best to be able to stick and move with speed.
If we ever get to the place where it’s 110% full-tilt barrels are hot in a community. Vests capable of mitigating rifle rounds would be counter productive to being able to move with speed and agility.
I would definitely wear a class 3a soft armor vest during the above situation. Movement is almost unrestricted and 9mm fired on a street will be as common as bread and butter is on a kitchen table.
Price seems to be all over the place and from what I gather a soft vest won't stop a 5.56? My guess is most of the BLM crowd will be dang lucky to hit you shooting a pistol.
Most of us would suffer from the lack of mobility caused by the weight of even a basic load and weapon on a hot day. Add the weight of a carrier and front and rear ceramic plates and you will soon be doing turtle impressions. War is a young man's game. DD and Gunner have the right idea for most of us.
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