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Originally Posted by joken2

Scroll down near the bottom of the page at this link for the known (at this point) criminal records of the three:

https://www.wisconsinrightnow.com/2020/08/28/kenosha-shooting/






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KENOSHA, Wis. (AP) — Scores of police supporters gathered Sunday in downtown Kenosha where protesters have been demonstrating against police brutality since the shooting of Jacob Blake last weekend.

Some attending the rally in the Wisconsin city wore “back the blue” shirts. Others carried American flags. They applauded when law enforcement vehicles rolled by.


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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
Originally Posted by joken2

Scroll down near the bottom of the page at this link for the known (at this point) criminal records of the three:

https://www.wisconsinrightnow.com/2020/08/28/kenosha-shooting/






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Trying it again: https://www.wisconsinrightnow.com/2020/08/28/kenosha-shooting/

If that still doesn't work scroll down here and on the right there's this headline for the same story --- click on it: https://www.wisconsinrightnow.com/

" Why We’ve Decided to Tell You the Criminal Records of the Men Shot in Kenosha
August 28, 2020 22 comments
We’ve decided to tell you the criminal histories of the three men who were shot in Kenosha, Wisconsin. Here’s why. We think the public is entitled to know all of the context to properly understand what unfolded that night. "

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Originally Posted by cv540
Pointing and aiming a firearm in Wisconsin is a misdeameanor, ESBUOADW, Endangering Safety By Use Of A Dangerous Weapon. That same statute covers Possession of a firearm intoxicated, also a misdeameanor.

See 941.20

To charge a felon in possession of a firearm, you need the firearm, in either state or federal court.

In federal court you have to prove the firearm or ammunition traveled across state lines, that is the Interstate commerce nexus.


Got any court cases and legal precedence to back this up.


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Interstate travel doesn't matter. A felon with a firearm is committing a federal felony.

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Originally Posted by simonkenton7
Interstate travel doesn't matter. A felon with a firearm is committing a federal felony.

Exactly.


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Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by cv540
Pointing and aiming a firearm in Wisconsin is a misdeameanor, ESBUOADW, Endangering Safety By Use Of A Dangerous Weapon. That same statute covers Possession of a firearm intoxicated, also a misdeameanor.

See 941.20

To charge a felon in possession of a firearm, you need the firearm, in either state or federal court.

In federal court you have to prove the firearm or ammunition traveled across state lines, that is the Interstate commerce nexus.


Got any court cases and legal precedence to back this up.


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Originally Posted by cv540
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by cv540
Pointing and aiming a firearm in Wisconsin is a misdeameanor, ESBUOADW, Endangering Safety By Use Of A Dangerous Weapon. That same statute covers Possession of a firearm intoxicated, also a misdeameanor.

See 941.20

To charge a felon in possession of a firearm, you need the firearm, in either state or federal court.

In federal court you have to prove the firearm or ammunition traveled across state lines, that is the Interstate commerce nexus.


Got any court cases and legal precedence to back this up.


Scarborough v. United States – Case Brief Summary (Supreme Court) | Lawpipe
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I’m not seeing where the court ruled that the government must prove that the firearm crossed state lines.


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https://www.ca10.uscourts.gov/opinions/17/17-3034.pdf

This is a tale of two laws: the National Firearms Act (NFA), 26 U.S.C.
§§ 5801–5872, which requires the registration of statutorily defined firearms, and Kansas’s Second Amendment Protection Act (SAPA), ch. 100, 2013 Kan. Sess. Laws vol. 1 500–03 (codified at Kan. Stat. Ann. §§ 50-1201 to -1211 (2014)), which purports to exempt any personal firearm, firearm accessory, or ammunition manufactured, owned, and remaining within Kansas’s borders from “any federal
law, . . . including any federal firearm or ammunition registration program, under the authority of congress to regulate interstate commerce.” Kan. Stat. Ann. § 50-1204(a). In 2014, these two laws intersected when the government prosecuted two Kansas men, Shane Cox and Jeremy Kettler, for violating the NFA by manufacturing (in Kansas), transferring (in Kansas), and possessing (in Kansas) several unregistered firearms. A jury found them guilty of most (though not all) of the charges.


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Like I said earlier, I think the only problem Kyle has to overcome is the fact that he's 17 and open carry age in Wisconsin is 18.


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Originally Posted by cv540
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by cv540
Pointing and aiming a firearm in Wisconsin is a misdeameanor, ESBUOADW, Endangering Safety By Use Of A Dangerous Weapon. That same statute covers Possession of a firearm intoxicated, also a misdeameanor.

See 941.20

To charge a felon in possession of a firearm, you need the firearm, in either state or federal court.

In federal court you have to prove the firearm or ammunition traveled across state lines, that is the Interstate commerce nexus.


Got any court cases and legal precedence to back this up.


Scarborough v. United States – Case Brief Summary (Supreme Court) | Lawpipe
https://www.lawpipe.com/U.S.-Supreme-Court/Scarborough_v_United_States.html



Gonzales v. Raich

The SC ruled that a product does not have to cross state lines to fall under jurisdiction of the Interstate Commerse Clause of the Constitution.


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Originally Posted by ringworm
Carrying a handgun without a permit.
Pointing and presenting.
Assault.

Open carry is law in Wi.


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Originally Posted by ringworm
Carrying a handgun without a permit.
Pointing and presenting.
Assault.

Open carry is law in Wi.

If you are 18 or older.


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The attacker is a convicted felon and should be charged. He made the statement that his only regret was not killing the kid. That demonstrates he had the means to do so, which was the pistol. Any one of us would be charged and probably held with no bail were it some snowflake we'd ran up on with a gun. When I say "us", I don't mean phags like Paddler or Jim from TN. I mean decent members, not cock munching eunuchs.

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Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by cv540
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by cv540
Pointing and aiming a firearm in Wisconsin is a misdeameanor, ESBUOADW, Endangering Safety By Use Of A Dangerous Weapon. That same statute covers Possession of a firearm intoxicated, also a misdeameanor.

See 941.20

To charge a felon in possession of a firearm, you need the firearm, in either state or federal court.

In federal court you have to prove the firearm or ammunition traveled across state lines, that is the Interstate commerce nexus.


Got any court cases and legal precedence to back this up.


Scarborough v. United States – Case Brief Summary (Supreme Court) | Lawpipe
https://www.lawpipe.com/U.S.-Supreme-Court/Scarborough_v_United_States.html



Gonzales v. Raich

The SC ruled that a product does not have to cross state lines to fall under jurisdiction of the Interstate Commerse Clause of the Constitution.


That is a weed case. No idea what the elements of that specific crime were, or what the jury instructions are.

I referred to the element in and the jury instructions for 922g Felon in Possession of a Firearm
"The firearm or ammunition had been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce before the defendant received it."

Every case I was involved in (original state cases that were prosecuted federally) this element was proven by having an expert witness research the firearm or ammunition to prove that it was manufactured in state A and recovered in state B, thus they could conclude it was shipped or transported across state lines (interstate commerce.) The defendant doesnt have to move it across state lines, but at some point the government has to prove that it did as an element of their case.

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Originally Posted by cv540
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by cv540
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by cv540
Pointing and aiming a firearm in Wisconsin is a misdeameanor, ESBUOADW, Endangering Safety By Use Of A Dangerous Weapon. That same statute covers Possession of a firearm intoxicated, also a misdeameanor.

See 941.20

To charge a felon in possession of a firearm, you need the firearm, in either state or federal court.

In federal court you have to prove the firearm or ammunition traveled across state lines, that is the Interstate commerce nexus.


Got any court cases and legal precedence to back this up.


Scarborough v. United States – Case Brief Summary (Supreme Court) | Lawpipe
https://www.lawpipe.com/U.S.-Supreme-Court/Scarborough_v_United_States.html



Gonzales v. Raich

The SC ruled that a product does not have to cross state lines to fall under jurisdiction of the Interstate Commerse Clause of the Constitution.


That is a weed case. No idea what the elements of that specific crime were, or what the jury instructions are.

I referred to the element in and the jury instructions for 922g Felon in Possession of a Firearm
"The firearm or ammunition had been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce before the defendant received it."

Every case I was involved in (original state cases that were prosecuted federally) this element was proven by having an expert witness research the firearm or ammunition to prove that it was manufactured in state A and recovered in state B, thus they could conclude it was shipped or transported across state lines (interstate commerce.) The defendant doesnt have to move it across state lines, but at some point the government has to prove that it did as an element of their case.

In the end, nobody but the two of us care.




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Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by Huntz
Originally Posted by ringworm
Carrying a handgun without a permit.
Pointing and presenting.
Assault.

Open carry is law in Wi.

If you are 18 or older.


I was referring to Thug 1;3... I think #2 AKA Porn King...
Open carry, I think, does not mean carrying in your hand down the street.


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