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Forget the scope... master the stair stepper. Yeap.... those extra 6-10 ounces for reliability are just brutal man killers. It is rather refreshing,to drive glass you needn't fret. Reupold sadly,doesn't even begin to make the cut and their wares are simply fhuqking embarrassing,in objective extrapolations. Just poked a fresh 8" RPM 7-08 spout on a rifle last night,am expecting my 22PPC Improved in Today's Mail and reckon a Howie 243 Kreed' ain't too far behind...none of which will be tainted by Reupold,despite having more than a "few" laying in wait. Hold the BDC Bullschit and simply pass erectors that talk the same language as the reticle and just happen to track,repeat and retain zero. Hint................. Ooooooooopsie!...forgot pics. My 1-6x HD Eruminated Demo oughtta arrive today and I need to call MeeOptika and see WTF with my puked 1-6x from them. Likely forgettin' some too..................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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the little Swaro Z3 3-9x36 has to be about the best little hunting scope made IMO. +1 especially with the 4A reticle also have a couple of the Kahles 2-7s and they are equally good on a lightweight 308 Yes. Both mine have the 4A reticle and I'm becoming a big fan of this style.
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Z3 3x9 W/4a for sure. The SWFA, in my experience, eye relief too short and the glass at higher mag’s just not clear so it sets in its box in the safe.....
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Sorry, SWFA ultralight sets in the safe.....
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The eye relief is fine on the swfa ultralight, its a non issue.
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The eye relief is fine on the swfa ultralight, its a non issue. +1 Yep, just another 24hour Campfire 'urban legend.'
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The eye relief is fine on the swfa ultralight, its a non issue. +1 Yep, just another 24hour Campfire 'urban legend.' If you want 2.5 in. eye relief then go for it. No one is stopping anyone from running any glass they can afford and choose. Some Tex-a s s thin skin types around the optics forum
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Just stating facts...nothing more, nothing less...
The eye relief "issue" on the swfa ultralight is not an issue.
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Just stating facts...nothing more, nothing less...
The eye relief "issue" on the swfa ultralight is not an issue. If 2.5 “ is no issue, go for it. Suits me
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Leupold 2.5-8X. IMHO, the best set-it-and-forget-it hunting scope available .. period.
Tom Agree. Put one on my 257R MR. Agreed, for an all round mountain rifle scope. Then again, I'd ask about the mountain. Where I hunt in the Appalachians and in the Green Mountains out East, and my shots are unlikely to be over 75 yards or so, I'm OK with something of lower magnification, say straight 2.5x, 1-4, 4x fixed, 1.5x5 or 2x7, and a smaller form factor. Out west, I'd prolly go bigger.
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SS 3-9 Is pretty tough to beat for a mountain rifle
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Are there any retail stores I can look at one of these?
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Are there any retail stores I can look at one of these? You can get one of them and if you dislike it send it back. They’re pretty good about that.
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SS 3-9 Is pretty tough to beat for a mountain rifle Agreed, the more I shoot mine the better I like it. But I lug an 8lb. all up rifle around the mountains so I may not be qualified to comment on scopes. mike r
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Are there any retail stores I can look at one of these? You can get one of them and if you dislike it send it back. They’re pretty good about that. Thanks
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SS 3-9 Is pretty tough to beat for a mountain rifle Agreed, the more I shoot mine the better I like it. But I lug an 8lb. all up rifle around the mountains so I may not be qualified to comment on scopes. mike r Same here. I don’t use much lighter but man I really like plunking down, dialing and hitting. It’s pretty nice when it all comes together.
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You might want to look at the Vortex razor 3x15x42mm LHT HD. 19 oz and tough as nails. Great glass and tracking also.
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Mine wear 2.5-8x36 Leupolds. Mine too. I'm not a fan of the Leupold scopes where you are intended to twist dials but my 2.5-8s just go and go
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Lightness counts in the mountains. My farthest ever poke at an elk was just over 200 yards and near anything would work for that. The horse guys didn’t care how much their rifle and equipment weighed, but walking up that mountain every morning at dawn, I sure did. I remember thinking that as of the day before that I hadn’t needed 10 rounds of 7 mag and that today I’ll bet that I could get by with only 7 or 8. A light scoped .308 three ridges back where the elk are beats a 9 pound .338 back at the tent.
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