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So, what caused the Medieval Warming? England was producing wine grapes in 900AD. Try that now. Wine production in England is increasing pretty quickly: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_from_the_United_Kingdom
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Along the Northern border of the USA from MN to NW Washington as well as interior AK, we make jokes about "Give me a little Global Warming" when we get into the "perpetual below zero" phase of winter.
We also get the occasional 40-50 degree day in the cold part of the year and again as a joke, we thank "Global Warming".
Of course both are anomalies. My question is: When does "Weather" become "Climate"?
How many years before "Weather" becomes "Climate"?
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The EPA is yet another example of the self licking ice cream cone government bureaucracy that keeps having to reinvent itself with more and more regulations to justify its existence. They did some good work at the onset, but have grown into an oppressive, wasteful and punitive operation that needs SEVERE curtailing .
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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The EPA is yet another example of the self licking ice cream cone government bureaucracy that keeps having to reinvent itself with more and more regulations to justify its existence. They did some good work at the onset, but have grown into an oppressive, wasteful and punitive operation that needs SEVERE curtailing . +1
"The Democrat Party looks like Titanic survivors. Partying and celebrating one moment, and huddled in lifeboats freezing the next". Hatari 2017
"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid." Han Solo
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Also was reported during the Viking Era. Romans brought grapes to England with Hadrian. What then, is normal climate? Warm enough to grow grapes in England, or cool enough NOT to grow grapes in England? Next, How did the Romans and Vikings warm the Earth enough change the climate to grow grapes there? What happened? You (Y'all) get what I'm saying. Is growing grapes something new or a return to historical norm?
"The Democrat Party looks like Titanic survivors. Partying and celebrating one moment, and huddled in lifeboats freezing the next". Hatari 2017
"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid." Han Solo
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They are saying that soon (within a few years) there will be more electric cars sold than gas and that, in combination with self-driving cars, will make gas powered mass transit obsolete. It is on its way out except for small niches (air travel, heavy equipment, lubricants, etc.). When that happens, oil will fall dramatically. By rights, it should completely take the wind out of the sails of AGW, but I'll wager they'll try to find another way to ration energy. SO...........what will they be fueling the power plants with? The green idiots hate hydro worse than oil.
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, and that should mitigate man made climate change forever more. Can't Mitigate something that never existed. Climate change is real and it has always exited. To say that its man made or man's fault is where the bovine excrement comes in. If it were man's fault then I guess the Neanderthals were responsible for one of the ice ages. Even some of the past ages were quite hot. Even the Jurassic period was warmer than today. In between, how many ice ages?. Guess one was the fault of dinosaur farts or some such. Climate changes and it always will. To put the blame on man is the epitome of assissinity. Paul B.
Our forefathers did not politely protest the British.They did not vote them out of office, nor did they impeach the king,march on the capitol or ask permission for their rights. ----------------They just shot them.
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Also was reported during the Viking Era. Romans brought grapes to England with Hadrian. What then, is normal climate? Warm enough to grow grapes in England, or cool enough NOT to grow grapes in England? Next, How did the Romans and Vikings warm the Earth enough change the climate to grow grapes there? What happened? You (Y'all) get what I'm saying. Is growing grapes something new or a return to historical norm? Or does it matter? the globe has warmed for a few decades, has happened several times already in recorded human history. Wether man made or not, it IS. Nobody is going to stop the Chinese or Indians, or Africans or Indonesians from buying and burning the available oil. That just IS what it is. Doesn’t matter how many Prius’ are sold in San Francisco. Likewise, NOBODY is going to change solar cycles, and there will be glacial ice in Arkansas soon enough. So, enjoy the times we can have wine from Britain, because this, too, shall pass.
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They'll just say BP is lying....it is a religion after all.
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When engaging the huge, sweeping issues that unfold across decades and centuries, most of mankind can only manage a view very limited in scope and understanding - this being only natural for we mere mortals. The weakest and most fragile of these folks work themselves into the crisis mode and wring hands about impending doom, and some of the nastiest of mankind try to take advantage of such weakness. Nothing there new to mankind.
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