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Originally Posted by simonkenton7
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Boy, 11, shot and killed by stepfather during deer hunt in St. Clair County

CLAY TWP, Mich. (FOX 2) - An 11-year-old boy has died after he was shot by his stepfather while hunting deer on private property in Clay Township in St. Clair County.

The Clay Township Police Department said the shooting happened around 8 p.m. in the 6300 block of Benoit Road Sunday.

Clay Township Police said the 11-year-old was with his family in the woods, hunting for deer, when witnesses heard gunshots and saw the boy on the ground. The child had been hit by a round that was discharged by his 40-year-old stepfather.

According to police, the boy was being treated by family members when police arrived and CPR was being performed. While they were there, police said another gunshot went off.

Police said the child's mother had shot herself in the hand as she was trying to unload a gun and it mistakenly went off.


The boy was taken to McLaren Hospital Macomb where he was later pronounced dead.

His stepfather is currently in custody and the case is being reviewed by the St. Clair County Prosecutor's Office.

The boy is the second hunting-related death in eastern Michigan. On Saturday, a 14-year-old boy was killed when he apparently fell asleep in a cornfield and was run over by a harvester.

This past weekend was Michigan's Liberty Hunt, open specifically for minors and hunters with disabilities.


WTF??? She shot herself in the hand while unloading the gun? These people need to go take a hunter's safety course before they kill their whole family.

I wonder if it was an accidental discharge, or the guy was a dumbschit and mistaked him for a deer.


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Originally Posted by gunner500
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Deer season is open in Michigan? Bow hunting? But then, who bow hunts deer in a un picked corn field and then lays down for a nap and doesn't wake up to the sound of a combine picking and shredding corn?
The story doesn't make sense.


May be some sort of early youth hunt.

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How could this youth not have heard the combine?

I agree that there's a lot of unanswered questions. Horrible.

Prayers are on the way for the youngster.


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This is a tragic accident.I don`t understand that the first thing people want to do is condemn someone before they know the whole story??


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Originally Posted by Huntz
This is a tragic accident.I don`t understand that the first thing people want to do is condemn someone before they know the whole story??


It's because the whole story sounds fishy, to put it mildly.

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Originally Posted by High_Noon
How could this youth not have heard the combine?

I agree that there's a lot of unanswered questions. Horrible.

Prayers are on the way for the youngster.


Youth got hit by train in Nashville while back, walking down the tracks with ear buds in.

Still you would think that a train would vibrate the ground, enough to make a quick enough alerting reacting to dive outta the way.

Probably had some of those pimp ass Dr Dre headphones on.

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Originally Posted by simonkenton7
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Boy, 11, shot and killed by stepfather during deer hunt in St. Clair County

CLAY TWP, Mich. (FOX 2) - An 11-year-old boy has died after he was shot by his stepfather while hunting deer on private property in Clay Township in St. Clair County.

The Clay Township Police Department said the shooting happened around 8 p.m. in the 6300 block of Benoit Road Sunday.

Clay Township Police said the 11-year-old was with his family in the woods, hunting for deer, when witnesses heard gunshots and saw the boy on the ground. The child had been hit by a round that was discharged by his 40-year-old stepfather.

According to police, the boy was being treated by family members when police arrived and CPR was being performed. While they were there, police said another gunshot went off.

Police said the child's mother had shot herself in the hand as she was trying to unload a gun and it mistakenly went off.

The boy was taken to McLaren Hospital Macomb where he was later pronounced dead.

His stepfather is currently in custody and the case is being reviewed by the St. Clair County Prosecutor's Office.

The boy is the second hunting-related death in eastern Michigan. On Saturday, a 14-year-old boy was killed when he apparently fell asleep in a cornfield and was run over by a harvester.

This past weekend was Michigan's Liberty Hunt, open specifically for minors and hunters with disabilities.

This sounds like a good one too.

Stepson Stepdad issues ????

Gotta wear orange on private land in MI????

Then mom pops herself in the hand???


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Liberty Hunt. 100% disabled vets, blind, deaf, or have a DNR issued permit for laser device and/or hunt from a standing vehicle. If Mr. 40 year old stepfather didn't fall into this category, he's in a world of schit. Mom needs a Hunter Safety course too.

Liberty Hunt is also for youths 16 or younger. Youth must be accompanied by a mentor at least 21 years old and within arms reach if they are 9 or younger. Youths 10-16 without a Hunter Safety cert must be accompanied by a parent or guardian. This parent or guardian must be within sight and/or reasonable voice distance. Youths 10-16 WITH a hunter safety cert must be accompanied by an adult 18 years or older unless they are on their parents or guardians land.

Complicated as hell, but this kid could've had a Hunter Safety cert and was hunting on his parents land by himself. Gets up at o' dark thirty and falls asleep or has ear pods in like kids do these days. Tragic all the way around.

Bad day in Michigan. We certainly don't need any more real world examples to teach our students in Hunter Safety class, which - by the way, Herr Whitmer has canceled this year due to COVID.


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Originally Posted by slumlord
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How could this youth not have heard the combine?

I agree that there's a lot of unanswered questions. Horrible.

Prayers are on the way for the youngster.


Youth got hit by train in Nashville while back, walking down the tracks with ear buds in.

Still you would think that a train would vibrate the ground, enough to make a quick enough alerting reacting to dive outta the way.

Probably had some of those pimp ass Dr Dre headphones on.

Had the exact same thing happen here about a month ago. 19 yo female walking the tracks with earbuds in. She didn't die but she's in really really bad shape. I don't understand how she's not dead.

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Step-father is in custody...which is interesting. Doesn't normally happen in hunting "accidents".

Blaze Orange is required (hat, vest, or coat) in all firearm deer hunting everywhere in Michigan unless it's during bow season.


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Originally Posted by CharlieFoxtrot
Step-father is in custody...which is interesting. Doesn't normally happen in hunting "accidents".

Blaze Orange is required (hat, vest, or coat) in all firearm deer hunting everywhere in Michigan unless it's during bow season.


Interesting.

I looked up the sunset time there, if at 8PM it was going to be getting dark real soon. Is MI a "half hour after sunset" State? If so, and if 8PM, then he was likely good on shooting time as sunset was about 7:40

Can't wait for "the rest of the story"


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Originally Posted by simonkenton7
another fatality in the same area:



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Boy, 11, shot and killed by stepfather during deer hunt in St. Clair County

CLAY TWP, Mich. (FOX 2) - An 11-year-old boy has died after he was shot by his stepfather while hunting deer on private property in Clay Township in St. Clair County.

The Clay Township Police Department said the shooting happened around 8 p.m. in the 6300 block of Benoit Road Sunday.

Clay Township Police said the 11-year-old was with his family in the woods, hunting for deer, when witnesses heard gunshots and saw the boy on the ground. The child had been hit by a round that was discharged by his 40-year-old stepfather.

According to police, the boy was being treated by family members when police arrived and CPR was being performed. While they were there, police said another gunshot went off.

Police said the child's mother had shot herself in the hand as she was trying to unload a gun and it mistakenly went off.


The boy was taken to McLaren Hospital Macomb where he was later pronounced dead.

His stepfather is currently in custody and the case is being reviewed by the St. Clair County Prosecutor's Office.

The boy is the second hunting-related death in eastern Michigan. On Saturday, a 14-year-old boy was killed when he apparently fell asleep in a cornfield and was run over by a harvester.

This past weekend was Michigan's Liberty Hunt, open specifically for minors and hunters with disabilities.


WTF??? She shot herself in the hand while unloading the gun? These people need to go take a hunter's safety course before they kill their whole family.

I wonder if it was an accidental discharge, or the guy was a dumbschit and mistaked him for a deer.



What a clusterfu-ck.

Was the stepchild read-headed by any chance?

Apparently mom was unloading her gun through the muzzle.

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Yes, up here we're 1/2 hour after sunset closing time. It's a very specific time, down to the minute, posted in the hunting guide. I know I can't see a thing at closing time during firearm deer in November - even with a scope. I usually leave the stand at least 15 minutes before actual close because it's too dark to shoot. Of course, I'm usually in the woods where it's darker. Snow can lengthen that time too.


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Originally Posted by deflave
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Bucks will spend a great deal of time in standing corn. There is a tactic whereby a hunter can slip in with a bow and walk right up on them. The problem is what happens if you get lost. I never much liked the tactic, because visibility was about 10 feet at best. Once you're in, there are few directional cues. You can use a compass, a gps (nowadays), or listen for traffic on a nearby road. I much preferred to catch them going in or out, often using a small penninsula or other structure as a key. I can see where a 14 yr old got in, got turned around, and decided to take a nap before heading out.


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I think I read about it in Bowhunter Magazine back in the 80's. It was about then I gave it a try. My first time out in the corn was out by the Wilmington Airport. I was able to keep my bearings by listening for the airplanes. It was not as fun as the article indicated, and after a half-hour, I got out.

Later, I tried it up around Mason Ohio. In that case I got turned around. The corn was on a corner lot with traffic on two sides. I finally went to the compass and went due-East until I got out. It was then I decided the technique was not my cup of tea. I had about 10 foot visibility, and I'm a big guy, so I couldn't move with a bow quietly.

Once I got out, I decided to hunt the little penninsula of trees that stretched out into the field. There was a ditch there, and I got into the ditch and took a nap. The deer woke me up at sundown coming out of the nearby woodlot and heading for the penninsula. They got close-- maybe 15-20 feet, but I couldn't get the bow up and get a shot in time. I ended up hunting that penninsula several more times-- either out of climbing stand or sitting in the ditch. That went on for a couple of seasons, before my buddy sold the land. It's now a mega church and the woodlot is a subdivision.

I really don't know why folks would think I was making this up. I grant that it wasn't the smartest idea, but then I was prone to this kind of failed experimentation before I got my act together. The biggest problem in those days was finding a place with a huntable herd actually on the property. My point in bringing it up is this is the sort of thing a young, inexperienced hunter my try.



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Mom shot herself in the hand.

As a paramedic I worked many, many GSW. Most were small caliber pistols as you might expect. .22LR, 9mm, .38 Special and so forth.
I did see a few patients hit with a deer rifle.

Scary to think what a .30-30 would do to the hand. Depends on where it hits of course but right there at the bone where it joins the wrist, it would blow the hand off of the arm.

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obituary. This is the kid who was run over by the corn harvester.



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Originally Posted by shaman
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Bucks will spend a great deal of time in standing corn. There is a tactic whereby a hunter can slip in with a bow and walk right up on them. The problem is what happens if you get lost. I never much liked the tactic, because visibility was about 10 feet at best. Once you're in, there are few directional cues. You can use a compass, a gps (nowadays), or listen for traffic on a nearby road. I much preferred to catch them going in or out, often using a small penninsula or other structure as a key. I can see where a 14 yr old got in, got turned around, and decided to take a nap before heading out.


LOL

Where do you come up with this fugking bullschit?



I think I read about it in Bowhunter Magazine back in the 80's. It was about then I gave it a try. My first time out in the corn was out by the Wilmington Airport. I was able to keep my bearings by listening for the airplanes. It was not as fun as the article indicated, and after a half-hour, I got out.

Later, I tried it up around Mason Ohio. In that case I got turned around. The corn was on a corner lot with traffic on two sides. I finally went to the compass and went due-East until I got out. It was then I decided the technique was not my cup of tea. I had about 10 foot visibility, and I'm a big guy, so I couldn't move with a bow quietly.

Once I got out, I decided to hunt the little penninsula of trees that stretched out into the field. There was a ditch there, and I got into the ditch and took a nap. The deer woke me up at sundown coming out of the nearby woodlot and heading for the penninsula. They got close-- maybe 15-20 feet, but I couldn't get the bow up and get a shot in time. I ended up hunting that penninsula several more times-- either out of climbing stand or sitting in the ditch. That went on for a couple of seasons, before my buddy sold the land. It's now a mega church and the woodlot is a subdivision.

I really don't know why folks would think I was making this up. I grant that it wasn't the smartest idea, but then I was prone to this kind of failed experimentation before I got my act together. The biggest problem in those days was finding a place with a huntable herd actually on the property. My point in bringing it up is this is the sort of thing a young, inexperienced hunter my try.



You can sneak thru corn rows bow hunting when it's very windy, looking up and down the next row.

I don't know how the hell anyone would get lost in one though.

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Originally Posted by whackem_stackem
Deer season is open in Michigan? Bow hunting? But then, who bow hunts deer in a un picked corn field and then lays down for a nap and doesn't wake up to the sound of a combine picking and shredding corn?
The story doesn't make sense.


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Originally Posted by deflave
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Bucks will spend a great deal of time in standing corn. There is a tactic whereby a hunter can slip in with a bow and walk right up on them. The problem is what happens if you get lost. I never much liked the tactic, because visibility was about 10 feet at best. Once you're in, there are few directional cues. You can use a compass, a gps (nowadays), or listen for traffic on a nearby road. I much preferred to catch them going in or out, often using a small penninsula or other structure as a key. I can see where a 14 yr old got in, got turned around, and decided to take a nap before heading out.


LOL

Where do you come up with this fugking bullschit?


It’s true. There’s a technique of still bow-hunting standing corn rows into the wind or at least from a favorable direction. But I learned it to be used with snow, a step at a time and with constant glassing to the windward side into adjacent rows.
With a breeze, the stalk leaves make a rattling noise, and with snow I’ve come within ten feet of deer and pheasants without them knowing of me.
But I cannot explain the not hearing the machinery even of this kid was knowingly trying this technique. Very sad indeed.

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Seems weird that a combine would be in a cornfield this early in the year, especially downstate. Just stating an opinion, not speculating.


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