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I like to run a 376 Steyr. It's fun, accurate....I push a 270 @ 2500 from a 20" tube. Recoil is very manageable. Bullets are tough and don't detonate so meat loss is not as bad as the uninitiated assume.
Who else likes to use excessive for animal rounds?
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no such thing. I once shot bullfrogs with 378 bee.
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Used the 400J #1 on Whitetail once.
Worked good too...
It's you and the bullet, and all the rest is secondary.
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I don’t think there is such a thing as too much rifle. If you can shoot it accurately and comfortably, and it is portable enough for you style of hunting, use it.....it’s a personal decision!
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You should not use a rifle that will kill an animal when everything goes right; you should use one that will do the job when everything goes wrong." -Bob Hagel
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I've shot a lot of stuff with Way Too Much gun. Some of the worst examples are: 5# coyote pup with a 458 B&M, 100# pig with a 500 N.E., and a 110# whitetail doe with a 458 Lott. Ads a sense of adventure to fairly "mundane" hunts. Oh, and no need for follow up shots!
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Nope. I like 308 Winchester........... for big game, not squirrel.
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Used the 400J #1 on Whitetail once.
Worked good too... Got invited to hunt on the East Coast. I asked the in-law what should I hunt with, and he said "bring a lever action and you'll be fine". So I did
It's you and the bullet, and all the rest is secondary.
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I’ve entertained myself with shooting rockchucks with a .300 Win Mag😂
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Depends on how and who looks at it and their perspective on what’s excessive for the game hunted. But I could have been one of those guys having used a 340 Wby over a quarter of a century for elk.
But I shot it a lot, could control it, and really liked the cartridge, and just as importantly, I liked the rifle I had had built on a Rem 700 action.
Also, unlike the reports of many here, I took some 80% of my elk at between 350 and 500 yards without any apparent way to cut the distance at the time of each opportunity. These were all one-shot kills and I had great confidence in the rifle and the cartridge.
Three or four were taken between 100 and about 150 yards.
I always realized that the 340 wasn’t necessary to take elk and never would have said so, but it wasn’t until I got older and didn’t like the 8.5 lb (which really isn’t all that heavy considering the medium magnums) ready-to-go weight while climbing mountains and carrying some sort of pack that I gave it up.
And honestly, as you get older recoil doesn’t get any dearer either. I did take two bulls, one with a 30/06 and another with a 284 Win and both did fine, the former at 400 yds again, and the latter at about a hundred.
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I have shot coyotes with a .300 Win and I liked it! 😁.....Hb
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The older I get, the more I enjoy hunting with, and carrying, my big-bore handguns for hunting- 3-3.5 lbs. is a lot more enjoyable to carry than 8.5-9 lb. magnum rifles. Of course, I get the argument of using 'too much handgun', but that is another argument for another day......
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Down here we use 150 grain SGK's in a 300 WM to shoot bull frogs. Hit them in the body and it makes skinning the legs easier. I fact the legs are already skinned.
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I've killed 2 deer with a .338 RUM and 3 with an 8 mm Rem mag. I deer hunted a couple if times with a .416 Rem mag but never had a shot opportunity. So yeah, I've done it.
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IMHO, too much rifle is relative..... I've shot crows in the tops of pecan trees with a 17 remington and 20 gr. bullet. If you've ever seen a pillow explode during a pillow fight, the effect is much the same. I've killed pigs with 100 gr. Partitons out of a 257 weatherby @3,650 fps. and the results were significantly more blood shot meat than a 45-70 using a 400 gr. bullet under 2000 fps. I've also killed deer using 180 gr. Ballistic tips out of a 338 RUM @3,400 fps, and had the meat turned to jelly for about 12" in diameter. IMHO, bullet construction and velocity make much more difference that the diameter of the bullet! BTW, I love the 376 Steyr on hoglets ya! GWB
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Yup, I am guilty My usual 6.5 Grendel Is way more than enough gun for our midwest Whitetail that seldom go over 300 lbs on the hoof. A 6mm ARC or 300 BLK would suffice for my type of hunting. Seldom do shots exceed 100 yards.
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Shot this doe a few years ago with a .404 Jeffery. Then a week or so later shot a buck out of the same blind with a .221 Fireball.
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After watching grandkids slay deer and pigs plus a couple Aoudads, yes I’m using too much gun.
I don’t care. I like my rifles.
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Same here. I’ll run a 300 RUM, 338 Win or 375 Improved just cause I want to. They don’t hurt meat much on rib shots and heck, you only get so much time to hunt!
I’d try a 416 if I had one. In the same breath I’ve used 222, 223, 22-250 and about everything in between. It’s all in the name of fun. GeeDub nailed it when he said it’s the Bullet used more than the diameter.
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Shot my first and biggest Sitka Blacktail with a 458 Winchester pushing 350 Hornadys at 2550. He was 210 yards away up a hillside on Kodiak and it sounded like you whacked a plastic trash can with a 2x4 when it hit him in the chest.
I’ve killed deer with a hot rod 45/70 and pigs too.
After changing my ways and seeing how well 223 kills with good bullets I probably ain’t going back to the boomers.
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Given that the 250 Savage is probably perfect for deer, my 308 and 30-06 are too much.
Given that the 308 is OK for elk, then my 338 WM was too much.
But I'm comfortable with my choices.
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