It appears anything that increases the chance for a kill is good for the mighty hunters of the campfire. No point beating around the bush. We should just legalize bait, spot lights, dogs, night vision scopes, aircraft, full auto belt feed and 24/7 hunting hours. WTF it don't matter how or when so long as you get to kill something.
Isn’t the idea to harvest the animal you’re after? Out of state tags are spendy and personally I like eating elk, venison, antelope, etc. I hunt to feel my freezer. I really enjoy the experiences but I’m there to harvest an animal. If that’s not the case I might as well become a vegetarian...
Can someone else start fighting with Burns?,,,,,,Please!
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No kidding Beav. This is too hard to look away from, but painful to watch.
Its amazing to me there is this much BS over the topic. I just realized how much I suck at killin stuff till I hit this thread. I guess till you can see the hairs on the bulls cack before I line up the sights I’m not really giving him a chance to get away
Scotty, I wouldn’t know a good scope from a bad one...I always close my eyes before I squeeze the trigger. Amazing that I kill anything.
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No kidding Beav. I like to accessorize my stuff nice for the pictures though.
Most of my rifles wear Leupolds. I don't need them to track, just hold zero cuz I know how to hunt. If I had stupid deer like the high Wyoming success rates show, I wouldn't use a scope at all.
Alas I am not so good a hunter so optics that dial help me fill the freezer.
Some of my buddies also struggle and don't have your hunting skillz but do have optics that dial.
We all have to play the hand we were dealt and not everyone has your awesome hunting abilities.
Considering my success rate, it's obvious not many have my skills. They say 10% of the hunters kill 90% of the deer here. Obviously that puts me somewhere in the top 10%.
With that logic, the hunters in Wyoming are better than those in New York. That explains their higher success rate.
Funny, hunters draw the line for other hunters all the time, hence the reason things like spot lights, baiting and aircraft are illegal in many if not most areas. When you can sit there having a conversation with your buddies in a normal voice, have to yell for the deer to even hear you and even then it isn't sure what it heard or where it came from and doesn't spook, you are too far away for that animal to have a sporting chance of identifying danger and making an escape for it to constitute sporting and fair chase. Just watch Burns video. It's all there.
That's what I'm asking all of you. As for me, as I said before, if you can stand there having a conversation with your buddies in full voice and have to yell just for the deer to even hear you, and even then it can't identify what it heard or where it came from, it's too far for it to have a reasonable chance at detecting danger and making an escape.
Maybe it should be a mano e mano game. That would be fair and sporting. By the way, government drew those lines, not other hunters. You are advocating for more government without even realizing it.
No gov't didn't draw those lines, at least not here. NYDEC works with the conservation council, which is made up of hunters, landowners, farmers and insurance companies, on most hunting regulations. Hunters generally don't support what they consider to be to "unsportsmanlike" hunting methods/practices here, which is exactly the reason baiting, dogs and shooting from a motor vehicle are illegal. Farmers, insurance companies and DEC generally don't give a fuuck as long as sustainable harvest quota's and license sales are met. You should stick to things you know something about bicycle boy, like cute little spandex outfits perhaps.
Sorry bud, but if there is legal force to it, the government is responsible for it. People cannot make up laws independent of the government.
The hunting regulations are crafted cooperatively by DEC and the conservation council. Sorry to burst your bubble.
\ Enacted by government. Don't be embarrassed. There are several other government centrist types here.
It appears anything that increases the chance for a kill is good for the mighty hunters of the campfire. No point beating around the bush. We should just legalize bait, spot lights, dogs, night vision scopes, aircraft, full auto belt feed and 24/7 hunting hours. WTF it don't matter how or when so long as you get to kill something.
Isn’t the idea to harvest the animal you’re after? Out of state tags are spendy and personally I like eating elk, venison, antelope, etc. I hunt to feel my freezer. I really enjoy the experiences but I’m there to harvest an animal. If that’s not the case I might as well become a vegetarian...
I used to really need to fill the freezer to eat. That'll happen when you have six kids with big appetites for meat. Now that they're grown and gone and nobody's going to go hungry it's important to me HOW I hunt and kill, not just that I do.
It appears anything that increases the chance for a kill is good for the mighty hunters of the campfire. No point beating around the bush. We should just legalize bait, spot lights, dogs, night vision scopes, aircraft and 24/7 hunting hours. WTF it don't matter how or when so long as you get to kill something.
You are a chick, right?
Nothing wrong with that but you just seem really emotional and irrational.
No but I don't live in denial of reality.
Fair enough, just having a bit of fun bustin ballz.
It is the Optic Forum.
I will agree you are good at that and have a good sense of humor to boot.
Funny, hunters draw the line for other hunters all the time, hence the reason things like spot lights, baiting and aircraft are illegal in many if not most areas. When you can sit there having a conversation with your buddies in a normal voice, have to yell for the deer to even hear you and even then it isn't sure what it heard or where it came from and doesn't spook, you are too far away for that animal to have a sporting chance of identifying danger and making an escape for it to constitute sporting and fair chase. Just watch Burns video. It's all there.
That's what I'm asking all of you. As for me, as I said before, if you can stand there having a conversation with your buddies in full voice and have to yell just for the deer to even hear you, and even then it can't identify what it heard or where it came from, it's too far for it to have a reasonable chance at detecting danger and making an escape.
Maybe it should be a mano e mano game. That would be fair and sporting. By the way, government drew those lines, not other hunters. You are advocating for more government without even realizing it.
No gov't didn't draw those lines, at least not here. NYDEC works with the conservation council, which is made up of hunters, landowners, farmers and insurance companies, on most hunting regulations. Hunters generally don't support what they consider to be to "unsportsmanlike" hunting methods/practices here, which is exactly the reason baiting, dogs and shooting from a motor vehicle are illegal. Farmers, insurance companies and DEC generally don't give a fuuck as long as sustainable harvest quota's and license sales are met. You should stick to things you know something about bicycle boy, like cute little spandex outfits perhaps.
Sorry bud, but if there is legal force to it, the government is responsible for it. People cannot make up laws independent of the government.
The hunting regulations are crafted cooperatively by DEC and the conservation council. Sorry to burst your bubble.
\ Enacted by government. Don't be embarrassed. There are several other government centrist types here.
Somebody needs to manage the game or there won't be any. Best to make the rules cooperatively.
Can someone else start fighting with Burns?,,,,,,Please!
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They are to busy perusing the Leupold website planning their purchases.
My next one is going to be a VX-5HD 3-15x44 CDS
Since you brought up this scope I have question for you guys that are more knowledgeable about long range shooting than I am.
I have a Kimber 280AI that currently carries a Leupold VX3 that I have zero issues with. I would however like to put a dialed scope on it to increase my range. The two scopes I have looked at are the NF SHV 3-10x42 and the Leupold VX5 HD 3-15x44 CDS. I do not reload and would be shooting Nosler 140grain Accubonds. Is it worth it or am I spinning my wheels? Any advice would be much appreciated.
It appears anything that increases the chance for a kill is good for the mighty hunters of the campfire. No point beating around the bush. We should just legalize bait, spot lights, dogs, night vision scopes, aircraft, full auto belt feed and 24/7 hunting hours. WTF it don't matter how or when so long as you get to kill something.
Isn’t the idea to harvest the animal you’re after? Out of state tags are spendy and personally I like eating elk, venison, antelope, etc. I hunt to feel my freezer. I really enjoy the experiences but I’m there to harvest an animal. If that’s not the case I might as well become a vegetarian...
I used to really need to fill the freezer to eat. That'll happen when you have six kids with big appetites for meat. Now that they're grown and gone and nobody's going to go hungry it's important to me HOW I hunt and kill, not just that I do.
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