Why do dudes pay $1200 for a mini? They probably didn’t. Like bull sale a partner will bid up the critter to make the average go up and visa versa. No money every really changed hands.
Lots of people dont realize this. Plenty of times the same firearm is back on several weeks later. If ya surf gunbroker and guns america 2 to 3 times a week, you will see this happening.
Why do dudes pay $1200 for a mini? They probably didn’t. Like bull sale a partner will bid up the critter to make the average go up and visa versa. No money every really changed hands.
Scared money spends w/ ease. Most will remember the days of $100.00 hi cap mags and $2500.00 AKs.
Or as what was once said, I think by Fabulous Frank, "pot is more comfort in times of no money than is money in times of no pot". Even the Freak Bros. understood basic economics.
mike r
Don't wish it were easier Wish you were better
Stab them in the taint, you can't put a tourniquet on that. Craig Douglas ECQC
Bought a new one a couple of months ago. Regassed it and installed a buffer. Accuracy is plenty for its purpose, and I'm planning on spending any time trying to tweak it into something it's not designed to be. With 5-round mags, it carries very nicely, not M1 Carbine nice, but still very handy.
I initially thought it was just like everybody says, a scattergun, but turned out the problem was the scope couldn't hold zero while being whacked every shot by the operating rod slamming into the receiver. Replaced the rings with the rail, mounted a SS 6x42, and it settled down. Once that was settled, It was replaced with a PA 1x reflex. Will check later to see if one of my lasers will fit in front of that.
Only reliabilty issues occurred while testing different gas ports. The .045 is dead reliable so far, while taming the tendancy to toss brass over the moon, and reducing the dented cases. As to accuracy, 2" will hit anything I need to with this rifle, especially with the "compromised" optic I'm using. Funny how many seem to overlook the accuracy issues of the sainted AK and other rifles, but zero in on the Mini for that, while also ignoring the improvements that have been made. Only minor gripe with the design is that 5-rounders are a bit tricky to insert. The 30s are fine. I much prefer the M1-type bolt handle to the AR's charging handle.
A big plus for me is that it carries just like any other sporting rifle with the 5-rounders in place. If my season goes well, this one may make it into the rotation for some doe shooting.
Bought a new one a couple of months ago. Regassed it and installed a buffer. Accuracy is plenty for its purpose, and I'm planning on spending any time trying to tweak it into something it's not designed to be. With 5-round mags, it carries very nicely, not M1 Carbine nice, but still very handy.
I initially thought it was just like everybody says, a scattergun, but turned out the problem was the scope couldn't hold zero while being whacked every shot by the operating rod slamming into the receiver. Replaced the rings with the rail, mounted a SS 6x42, and it settled down. Once that was settled, It was replaced with a PA 1x reflex. Will check later to see if one of my lasers will fit in front of that.
Only reliabilty issues occurred while testing different gas ports. The .045 is dead reliable so far, while taming the tendancy to toss brass over the moon, and reducing the dented cases. As to accuracy, 2" will hit anything I need to with this rifle, especially with the "compromised" optic I'm using. Funny how many seem to overlook the accuracy issues of the sainted AK and other rifles, but zero in on the Mini for that, while also ignoring the improvements that have been made. Only minor gripe with the design is that 5-rounders are a bit tricky to insert. The 30s are fine. I much prefer the M1-type bolt handle to the AR's charging handle.
A big plus for me is that it carries just like any other sporting rifle with the 5-rounders in place. If my season goes well, this one may make it into the rotation for some doe shooting.
guys put a 1911 buffer over the return spring where it goes into the hole in the mag well. absorbs some of the shock. along with the smaller port it will be better. guys make me laugh when they say a 1x4 or 1x6 scope they would take into combat when mini 14's and the Scar rifles were eating scopes. ghost ring sites for me
I bought a set from Accuracy Sytems, who also make the port kit I used. Came with two; the instructions said try two, then remove one if the bolt doesn't lock back on an empty mag.
The original scope, a Hawke Endurance(!) 2-7 was fine for a few shots, then jumped impact to someplace else. Readjusted, rinse, repeat. The SS in "Horn" rings stayed put. Had a moment of doubt about the whole deal until I puzzled that out. Now I really like the oogly little spud. The buffers were installed after the fact, BTW. Accuracy seems about like the Springfield Saint I had a while back, and which I never cared for all that much. Different strokes.
I like the way it takes down too. Yank the trigger guard back and it just falls apart. Take the whole trigger group out, hose it out, lube it a bit and it's good. Gas system couldn't be much simpler. My reloads are with TAC to keep the crud to a minimum.
Paid something over $900, from Oakland Guns in AR. Found extra mags at CDNN.
Stock ranch rifle stainless synthetic sell for 1,225.00 on gunbroker.
Dang, just bought a used 580 series last week for $350. Put a red dot on it and it will do 2" @100 with my old eyes using federal fmj ammo
viking was right...a lot of bullchitten going on here
Sure is now flush your mouth
do you really think any body believe with guns being so scarce and new minis going for 1200 that you paid 350 for one and it shoots 2 inch groups? put down the needle the bottle and the pain pills and rethink it
Bought a new one a couple of months ago. Regassed it and installed a buffer. Accuracy is plenty for its purpose, and I'm planning on spending any time trying to tweak it into something it's not designed to be. With 5-round mags, it carries very nicely, not M1 Carbine nice, but still very handy.
I initially thought it was just like everybody says, a scattergun, but turned out the problem was the scope couldn't hold zero while being whacked every shot by the operating rod slamming into the receiver. Replaced the rings with the rail, mounted a SS 6x42, and it settled down. Once that was settled, It was replaced with a PA 1x reflex. Will check later to see if one of my lasers will fit in front of that.
Only reliabilty issues occurred while testing different gas ports. The .045 is dead reliable so far, while taming the tendancy to toss brass over the moon, and reducing the dented cases. As to accuracy, 2" will hit anything I need to with this rifle, especially with the "compromised" optic I'm using. Funny how many seem to overlook the accuracy issues of the sainted AK and other rifles, but zero in on the Mini for that, while also ignoring the improvements that have been made. Only minor gripe with the design is that 5-rounders are a bit tricky to insert. The 30s are fine. I much prefer the M1-type bolt handle to the AR's charging handle.
A big plus for me is that it carries just like any other sporting rifle with the 5-rounders in place. If my season goes well, this one may make it into the rotation for some doe shooting.
guys put a 1911 buffer over the return spring where it goes into the hole in the mag well. absorbs some of the shock. along with the smaller port it will be better. guys make me laugh when they say a 1x4 or 1x6 scope they would take into combat when mini 14's and the Scar rifles were eating scopes. ghost ring sites for me
Stock ranch rifle stainless synthetic sell for 1,225.00 on gunbroker.
Dang, just bought a used 580 series last week for $350. Put a red dot on it and it will do 2" @100 with my old eyes using federal fmj ammo
viking was right...a lot of bullchitten going on here
Sure is now flush your mouth
do you really think any body believe with guns being so scarce and new minis going for 1200 that you paid 350 for one and it shoots 2 inch groups? put down the needle the bottle and the pain pills and rethink it
it has to be the rearward slam being going forward stripping a round from the mag slows it down absorbs the shock
I believe it’s the forward, similar to a spring air rifle. Scopes aren’t really constructed to resist forward ‘recoil’, so a scope that does just fine in a big kicking centerfield can be torn up by a springer of a mini with the forward recoil.
I would hope so. On the mini I’ve destroyed a Bushnell (decades ago) and had good luck with a newer Redfield 2-7. The Bushnell rattled like a castanet and the reticle was floating around in circles. Needless to say, it was truly barn door (in)accurate with that scope. FWIW, the scope previously was on a bolt action .30-06 with no issues.
Now, I recall. I believe guys over on the perfect union were installing 1911 recoil buffers up front too. Eventually they get ate up from hot cases, but tamed it down.
The PA works well. Since it can be focused like a scope, no glasses are needed. Works without batteries. Eye relief isn't unlimited, but plenty, and with both my eyes open it lines up very quickly. Lights up if needed. The center is a fine chevron, surrounded by a pretty thick donut, which can be used for ranging and holding at 200 and 300. Would prefer something simpler, but of all the ones I checked, this one's the best. Hope it holds up, but have other stuff waiting in line if it crashes.
