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I have an "S" like it have trijicon nite sights on it

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When the 30 first came out I read the rags.
They gushed about it, of course.
How small!.....

So I went to look at one.
Hmmm, doesn't really seam small.
Feels....big.

"Can I see that 19 too?"

So it's the same size, but fatter.
It's heavier. Empty.
And the grip is even bigger.

But, it gives up 6 rounds.



Honestly never checked out the S.
Might like tgat one.


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Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
When the 30 first came out I read the rags.
They gushed about it, of course.
How small!.....

So I went to look at one.
Hmmm, doesn't really seam small.
Feels....big.

Honestly never checked out the S.
Might like that one.

You realize, of course, that the 30S uses the same frame as the 30. It feels in the hand exactly the same. The only difference is the slide on the 30 is a hair thicker and heavier than on the S. In a proper belt/holster combo, the standard 30 carries comfortably and conceals about as well as the 30S. The standard 30 shoots better than the S, too, due to more slide weight to absorb recoil.

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I have to disagree TRH. I've carried the 30 and 30S in the same Safariland 27 and the 30s was noticeably more comfortable. No diff on target with two of us passing them both back and forth; but both of us are used to harder kicking handguns so the recoil from these was inconsequential.


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I'd like one if my paws were bigger but a 19 is more my size.

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Originally Posted by UPhiker
I'd like one if my paws were bigger but a 19 is more my size.

The 19 is just right for most adult men.

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I would like to try both. But I can't make myself carry a Block. Had one (22) for about 12 years, issued to me when hauling max level inmates. I don't like the dumb switch in the middle of the trigger. I like the 1911A1 for carry. But I have two 21s for some experimentation. It was cheaper/easier than the 1911A1 for the kind of alterations I was trying. I have a 50 GI top on one and a 9" barrel, springs and other parts changes to set up for 45 Super on the other. I do have 26 round mags for the 45 for "vehicular emergencies". Makes for a decent car or truck gun. Sure wish I had one of the 686s they traded off to change to the Block. Actually one of each barrel length! Rant over. Be Well, RZ.


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
I thought the 30S was an awesome concept and bought one nearly right after they hit the market. Unfortunately, I had a problem with the slide locking back while there were still rounds in the mag. This happened fairly frequently. I sent it back to Glock for repair, and they said it ran perfectly for them, so I must be gripping it wrong, thus pushing up on the slide stop with my thumb under recoil. I tried shooting it again, while paying close attention to not doing that, and it still happened, so I dumped it at a loss at the very next nearby gun show. To replace it, I bought a standard Glock 30, and it's been 100% perfect. Shoots great.


I had the opposite problem: over time, my slide started to not lock back when the magazine was empty. I had people tell me I was hitting the slide release while shooting; however, I ran tests where I'd 'flag' my thumb to completely avoid the slide release and I also let some friends shoot it, the problem could be reproduced in all cases.

One other oddity was that even when the slide lock would engage, it might disengage on its own (it would lock back for a second or two, then release) or you could cause it to disengage if you smacked the side of the slide. This had me start looking at the possibility of a defective slide lock or similar issue. After becoming more familiar with how the follower in the magazine works (I'm proficient with firearms, but I don't claim to be an armorer), it became obvious after comparing my factory 10-round magazine followers to online images of other magazines that the little 'nub' on the follower that pushes up on the slide lock to engage it was ever so slightly smaller on my magazines. I'd wanted a 13 round magazine as a back up so I bought one and it clearly had a slightly different follower. A range test helped further cement this as the issue; the 13 rounder always locked back, the original two 10 rounders that came with the gun would fail the majority of the time. I later acquired new 9- and 10-round magazines and they've never had this issue, it was only the original 10-round magazines that came with the gun. My 30S was purchased the same week it debuted at SHOT Show; I don't know if the early magazines had been modified for the release and were later updated (not sure why they would have been given the 30SF had already been around awhile at that point and it's the same frame and uses the same magazines) or if I just got two lemons.

FYI, don't buy the factory 9-round magazines and expect to carry 9+1: they will not hold 9 rounds; hell, I can barely get the 8th round in them. It's disappointing, but they are a more flush fit with the bottom of the grip for CCW. I'd read about this online before buying them but I ass-umed I was special and could never possibly run in to this same problem.

Overall, though, I've been very pleased with the gun. Everyone that shoots it is also surprised by its accuracy. I've used it a lot as a field gun (I load it with Buffalo Bore 255 grain hard cast rounds; you definitely know it when you touch one of these off), it was at one point my nightstand gun, and I've occasionally carried it. Given its size, round capacity and versatility, I really think it is one of the best options if you're interested in .45 ACP.

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I had a G30 with an extended slide stop on it and my thumb would interfere with it occasionally. I swapped in the standard slide stop and that cured it.


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
When the 30 first came out I read the rags.
They gushed about it, of course.
How small!.....

So I went to look at one.
Hmmm, doesn't really seam small.
Feels....big.

Honestly never checked out the S.
Might like that one.

You realize, of course, that the 30S uses the same frame as the 30. It feels in the hand exactly the same. The only difference is the slide on the 30 is a hair thicker and heavier than on the S. In a proper belt/holster combo, the standard 30 carries comfortably and conceals about as well as the 30S. The standard 30 shoots better than the S, too, due to more slide weight to absorb recoil.


The G30S has the same size frame as the G30SF and G30 Gen4.
The G30 is a little longer trigger to backstrap length than the G30SF and G30 Gen4.

The G30S slide is the same as a G36 slide.

I have found the G30 and G30SF shoot better for me than the G30S did.

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It is a very efficient .45 for the size of it. When it comes to the size/weight/capacity, I find it to be a very practical little big bore handgun. Like Sarge, I have put a good number of rounds through mine with no issue, but everyone handles recoil differently. There is no doubt that a 9mm is easier to shoot, but for a compact .45 the G30S is a solid choice.


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Including the base plate of the OEM 10 round mag, I can get 3 1/2 fingers on a G29/30; but that damn exaggerated hump at the rear of the frame makes getting a shooting grip slower than it should be. In my hands the 21SF is just right and of course we are all different in this regard.

In late '14 I had a rotator cuff/bicep repair scheduled, so I knew I'd be left handed for a couple of months. To complicate matters, my left hand stopped an Old Hickory 25 years pervious. I have good use of it but it not as much dexterity or feeling as my right. So I started looking at ways to make the 30 work better in either hand. This board always shows my photos as linked images, so here's a link to what I came up with. If the election Stupid ever abates I'm going to find a 30S and give it this treatment.

http://www.thesixgunjournal.net/glock-30-grip-modifications/


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Sarge,

I undercut mine and knocked down the front finger groove to get a better, higher grip on it, as I have size XL hands. It made a difference.


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I hear you Mackay. I adapted to finger grooves pretty well on the G22-23 but they don't work for me on the 30. The undercut makes a big difference too, especially when you bevel the outside edges up a little. I had to be real careful around the mag release but one could just as easily remove it.


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Originally Posted by Mackay_Sagebrush
Sarge,

I undercut mine and knocked down the front finger groove to get a better, higher grip on it, as I have size XL hands. It made a difference.


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It would have been easier to get G23 in the first place. Better capacity with standard magazine, larger grip area and less expensive easier to find ammo.

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Originally Posted by SargeMO
Including the base plate of the OEM 10 round mag, I can get 3 1/2 fingers on a G29/30; but that damn exaggerated hump at the rear of the frame makes getting a shooting grip slower than it should be. In my hands the 21SF is just right and of course we are all different in this regard.

In late '14 I had a rotator cuff/bicep repair scheduled, so I knew I'd be left handed for a couple of months. To complicate matters, my left hand stopped an Old Hickory 25 years pervious. I have good use of it but it not as much dexterity or feeling as my right. So I started looking at ways to make the 30 work better in either hand. This board always shows my photos as linked images, so here's a link to what I came up with. If the election Stupid ever abates I'm going to find a 30S and give it this treatment.

http://www.thesixgunjournal.net/glock-30-grip-modifications/

That looks like an improvement.

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Thanks TRH, I decided I was going to make it feel better in the hand regardless of what it ended up looking like. I figure the only way you can make a Glock uglier is to trade it for a Springfield XD; though I will admit a certain affection for the 4" xd45 Service.


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Is the Glock M30 smaller than the Glock M21? If so how much smaller? Would the recoil be more or less with the M30 with both using the same ammo?

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I have tried two of them, they did not stay with me. They did appear to shoot better than the G21, but like the 21 due to thickness are more difficult for me at least to carry IWB. The 45 shield while holding fewer rounds in my hands shoots better and is easier for me to carry..


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The 45 Shield is a nice small 45 for sure.


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