Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Considering the Threat- Gun Size vs Mag Size

Seems to me if you've managed to shoot your way out of crowd of bad guys/gals and have managed to get back to your truck, why not get in your truck and haul azz outta there??

L.W.

Nothing wrong with a 1911. Have several. Along with multiple Glocks.
But if your waiting for the Election to “see how much ammo you need”, you’ve already screwed the pooch.

i"ve been studying gunfight info for 50 years and in the US, no civilian has HAD to hit more than 3 people, here in the US, and survived that need, with just a pistol, since the end of the Indian wars. It's pretty rare to have to to hit more than one and very rare to have to hit more than 2. (and still escape with your life, with only a pistol). Some HAVE shot that many, but some of those shot were fleeing. There may be a case of a cop or two having had to hit 4 people, but I've found no documentation of such a thing.

But sir, while your data may be as good as it gets, it might be dated. New or increasing threats seem to have risen, or so it seems. Your thoughts for the present crazy times vs. the last 50 years of data ?

Age old argument of what's better, size of the gun for concealment or magazine capacity. But the question now is, have your priorities changed given the current threats? Personally, 5 years ago, I would have opted for a smaller capacity gun that was easy to conceal against a threat of 1-4 criminals. Considering the mob threat on the horizon, my priorities have definitely shifted towards magazine capacity. The idea of having 20-30 bad guys running around me and having a nice, small, comfortable gun with a 7 round mag doesn't sound fun. My carry now is an M&P commander size with 4.25" barrel and a 17+1 capacity. It's bulkier and not as light but I like having those 17 rounds in the gun along with another 34 rounds in a 2 mag belt carrier. What are you guys carrying? Has it changed with Operation Mayhem in effect? Full disclosure, I have not carried nearly as long as many people here. Just speaking my mind and looking for any advice in the new environment. Thanks in advance.

Your pistol is for fighting your way back to your truck to get your rifle.

i"ve been studying gunfight info for 50 years and in the US, no civilian has HAD to hit more than 3 people, here in the US, and survived that need, with just a pistol, since the end of the Indian wars. It's pretty rare to have to to hit more than one and very rare to have to hit more than 2. (and still escape with your life, with only a pistol). Some HAVE shot that many, but some of those shot were fleeing. There may be a case of a cop or two having had to hit 4 people, but I've found no documentation of such a thing.

That is as dumb today as it was when first stated.


mike r

Then you haven't studied very hard.

Name even just ONE. bet you can't. give place, time, date, etc.

Then you haven't studied very hard.

I have trouble coming up with a situation where you'd need it. Pasty white burnouts there for the car fires and selfies won't stick around when the shooting starts. The people who will stick around aren't going to just stand next to each other at seven yards while you shoot 17+1 of them.

But then again if Kyle Rittenhouse or Jake Gardner taught us anything it's that the Democrats going to declare you the white supremacist aggressor and lock you up forever at the first shot, so in a manner of speaking all of the rest are on the house.

Sage advice LW !