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Because he's the professional, not me. I've gotten the vaccine every year, and will continue to do so. I don't buy into the "anti" theories about this.

Yes, I agree with you on the first paragraph with an exception on percentages. Depending on the source of information, there are 4 types and numerous strains. Let's assume for sake of argument that The methodology of vaccines produces effective results beyond just making $. BTW, in spite of claims, there are no legal requirements for the vaccines to impart immunity. The chances of picking the right target strain is like picking the same card from the deck after the shuffle.

The percentages of efficacy are recycled information just like the liberals and same medical industry spun to us about the "Wuhan, reptile, bat, corona, covid #19 virus". They do this threat that the sky is falling every few years....as soon as they think the previous overblown hoax has been forgotten. When we ask someone to inject the same ingredients that are published, into our blood stream, they can cause brain and other neurological damage. Do they knock down the severity if we are infected? Some in the industry claim that, but I have yet to see valid, reliable testing that proves it. In experiences that I see from time to time those who get the vaccines and flu often experience worse symptoms than the average person who didn't. YMMV as every person is different, however, if seen dementia and deaths as the result of vaccines. We all should make up our own minds though.

Remember that the vaccine industry is the ONLY one that has legal immunity. However they are not required to prove that they impart what they claim. No consequences from the top down, except for the patients and care givers.

You asked about having the covid 19 and the flu at the same time?
I honestly don't know. Usually we carry many viruses. We don't normally exhibit symptoms of multiple viruses at the same time. From my limited understanding, It likely does, but not nearly as often as they manifest and multiply to levels that the immune system ramps up for the single strain. Then there's an acquired immunity to that specific strain. At least that is the common theory. Virology is not a science with all the answers as shown by the current tests, lack of a gold standard, diagnostics that have no isolated pathogenic tests for such.

We miss you too. Say hi to Roy, eh?

Your numbers are made up by the same liars that are still convincing the "herd", as you call them, about covid #19.

My family members were very hard working conservative seniors of strong body and intellect.
They never had a vaccine and were extremely healthy.
The one time they gave into the high pressure insistance of "herd" mentality of a wicked fat, lazy, unhealthy socialist who trusted the propaganda, guess what happened?
To use your term, they were culled.
They were KILLED. THEY WERE NOT PART OF YOUR HERD.

Take what you want. You can have mine too while you are at it.

Not to mention that the substances in the vaccine are unknown.

That’s just plain fear mongering.

rogers?

Have you ever read the package insert?
It would be under the section titled "INGREDIENTS."
You might have to spend a couple hours looking up code names of some, but its laid out with the exception of proprietaries.

You strike me as one of those weirdos that would deny your child access to cancer treatment because of your flat earth thinking.

That’s what I said, thanks. Not unknown.

We’ve heard a bit about “proprietary” on the forum.

Here's one of many places to start for anyone interested in the ingredients.

As to "fear mongering"......
I tell groups of people, including seniors to not let the constant propaganda on TV and the news paper scare you. I say, get outside in the sunshine mid and late mornings with skin exposed. Eat healthy. Get fresh air.
The real fear mongers WARN AND PAY Governors to require "lock downs", masks in all areas outside of homes, put businesses out of business permanently, etc. adnauseum. Oh, btw, our only hope to flatten the curve is a vaccine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!🤢😱😱😱😱😱
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Sorry if I misunderstood you.

Link?

Vaccine ingredients, etc.

https://drwiner.com/media/news-research-articles/

My intention is not to put down anyone for not knowing what is in the vaccines. As this article demonstrates, many physicians don't even know. I am however offering some information so anyone here can become aware of them. Otherwise, you will just trust the nurses, physicians, pharmacists, many if which are just getting paid by the hour or dose, and don't know themselves.

https://healthimpactnews.com/2017/m...-not-know-what-ingredients-they-contain/

Board Certified Pediatrician – American Board of Pediatrics
Medical Degree – Wayne State University School of Medicine
Pediatric Residency and Chief Residency – Children’s Hospital of Michigan
https://healthimpactnews.com/2015/susan-mccreadie-md-i-rest-easier-not-vaccinating-my-children/

I have had lengthy meetings with pediatricians about this very topic.

Medical Doctor Speaks Out Against Over-Vaccination Agenda of Big Pharma-Controlled CDC and FDA

https://healthimpactnews.com/2017/m...da-of-big-pharma-controlled-cdc-and-fda/

Who is forcing what upon society?
Believe it or not, anti injectors don't have the $ that Bill Gates and big pharma has to force populations to comply.

Who did?
https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-05...-rape-and-a-form-of-felony-assault.html#

That's the argument of someone who has run away from the truth. When you don't have facts, attack the messenger.

Flat earth?
I never claimed that and YOU KNOW IT SL.
I would never trust some ignoramus to inject my family members with harmful substances.
The three effing times that I was separated from them they were murdered.

Did I make myself clear or not slum?

I had a good friend, a stunningly beautiful 45 year old woman. I worked with her husband. She belonged to some wacko religion that wouldn’t allow her to take cancer treatments. She died at 45 from a very treatable cancer, leaving two teenagers and a husband.
Some of the conversation above reminds me of her. No it’s not exactly one for one.
I’ll get a flu shot later this week. My medical doctor recommends it. Do I know what’s in the shot, hell no. Will I ask, no, because that would be meaningless information to me. I’ve had a number of minor medical treatments, polio shots, measles and shingles shots, and I have no clue what was in any of them, don’t care and as far as I know, I’m very healthy. If you want to avoid medical treatment, have at it.

Excuse me dale, but how did this go from pro/cons of flu vaccines to "wacko religions" and cancer treatments?

In case you don't know, I am a Christian that holds to the Bible as my written source of authority as the Word if God. I follow no pope, nor religious leader of cultish authority beyond God's written Word. This has been orthodox Biblical Christianity for 2 thousand years.
Now I hear guys that could care less about what stranger pumps into their veins because of a profound blind trust. That object of trust has become idolatry for many Americans. Their false gods are physicians, and "science" falsely so called....which is what we are warned about in Paul's letter to Timothy.

Take whatever measures you want for health.
You have been provided a number of resources in my links posted above if you change your mind and wish to know what is in the shots.

Youre just scared of needles

Better hope you don’t catch “th-beetus”

The flu shot works for me, get one at the VA every October. If it works do it, if not, don't. It's a free country!

to throw a bit of bone and gristle into the discussion, i would believe that a purely natural food source, and allowing diseases to fully run their course might have a positive effect on humans?

that is, we made it into WW2 w/o penicillin. if i had been shot back then, i'd have asked for it if available.

pneumonia was often times called the old man's deliverer.

would humans be better off without medicine?

what about me as an individual human?

is what's best for individuals the same as best for the human races?

do witch doctors, medicine men, shamans and others really have a role to play?