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a case of 9mm fmj is just short of $300 here. 1000 rounds.
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Promo price for FMJ (115gr or 124gr)from S&B, Magtech, Geco-Nato is usually around 200€ per 1000. Specialty stuff like 147gr subsonic can go for 300€ or more per 1000.
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Fiocchi made some spicy 40 cal 180 ammunition. I never tried the 9mm, but I bet it is spicy too
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I'd say a 35 caliber hole all the way through will definitely gets someones attention, shoot for the pelvic bone. If your fighting for your life make em hurt.
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147 gr FP ball if I have to carry my Browning HP. The Winchester FPs were in 50 round boxes. I don't know if you can find any now. I have mine. Be Well, RZ.
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I know a hollow pointer is made for the 22LR, to convert RN to HP.
Wouldn't the same principal work using a drill on FMJ 9MM?
Virgil B. Probably not a good idea, unless we’re in TEOTWAWKI situation. Lawyers will have a field day with a guy that shoots someone with a “modified “ bullet and juries will suck that up like hobo on a ham sandwich.
"May the LORD bless you and keep you, may His face shine upon you, may He be gracious and give you peace"
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I know a hollow pointer is made for the 22LR, to convert RN to HP.
Wouldn't the same principal work using a drill on FMJ 9MM?
Virgil B. Probably not a good idea, unless we’re in TEOTWAWKI situation. Lawyers will have a field day with a guy that shoots someone with a “modified “ bullet and juries will suck that up like hobo on a ham sandwich. You have any proof of this
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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I know a hollow pointer is made for the 22LR, to convert RN to HP.
Wouldn't the same principal work using a drill on FMJ 9MM?
Virgil B. Probably not a good idea, unless we’re in TEOTWAWKI situation. Lawyers will have a field day with a guy that shoots someone with a “modified “ bullet and juries will suck that up like hobo on a ham sandwich. You have any proof of this It's of the same spirit as what I've been told my real lawyers in this area. I asked about using reloads for self-defense and was advised it was fine, so long as I used common bullet designs from established manufacturers, so long as I didn't modify the bullets. The same principle extended to the use of cast bullets. I was advised to use common designs by established manufacturers. If I designed my own mold, it could present difficulties in a civil suit.
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I know a hollow pointer is made for the 22LR, to convert RN to HP.
Wouldn't the same principal work using a drill on FMJ 9MM?
Virgil B. Probably not a good idea, unless we’re in TEOTWAWKI situation. Lawyers will have a field day with a guy that shoots someone with a “modified “ bullet and juries will suck that up like hobo on a ham sandwich. You have any proof of this Nope. Just what I’ve been reading for the last 45 years. But why take the chance? We’ve pretty much established that hardball works. And, I suspect that “hollow pointing” a FMJ bullet would result in a pretty crappy bullet anyway.
"May the LORD bless you and keep you, may His face shine upon you, may He be gracious and give you peace"
from Numbers 6:24-26
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