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Hunter - Plastic stock, no barrel threading, no fluting Montana - Kevlar stock, solid colour only, no fluting, threaded barrel, pillar bedded Mountain ascent - Kevlar stock, different colour/pattern options, threaded barrel w/brake, pillar bedded, fluted bolt/barrel Adirondack - Kevlar stock, one pattern option, 18(.5?)” barrel, threaded barrel, fluted bolt, pillar bedded
I think the new adirondacks have started using the same trigger guard as the Montana’s/MA’s?? They used to be a heavy stainless guard. I don’t own a new model so someone else with one would have to confirm.
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There hasn't been any Kevlar in a Kimber stock in a long time. Even when there was, it was a small amount in the recoil lug pocket. In addition, there's virtually no carbon fiber in the Costa Rica made stocks, probably less than 0.01%. The Montana, Mountain Ascent, Adirondack, Subalpine and Talkeetna stocks consist of a two-part polyeurethane foam core with an outer shell consisting of fiberglass and resin.
The best synthetic stock that Kimber offers is the one made by AG Composites that's used on the Open Range/Open Country 84M rifles. That has a lot of carbon fiber in it, i.e. the entire outer shell is made from a carbon fiber prepreg.
The Hunter stock is a 20% glass-filled polypropylene and it's one of the stiffest stocks available at that price point. The company that makes it also makes stocks for many of the big rifle manufacturers and they will tell you that the Hunter is the best stock they make.
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No worry's...I called Kimber and the guy (Jordan) said they are still making the Montana and that they just took the Montana model off the site to update some specs and it should be back up and listed in a few days 👍.....Hb Good to hear. Thanks for the update.
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No worry's...I called Kimber and the guy (Jordan) said they are still making the Montana and that they just took the Montana model off the site to update some specs and it should be back up and listed in a few days 👍.....Hb Good gawd! I was worrying... I don't like all those dipped stocks.
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There hasn't been any Kevlar in a Kimber stock in a long time. Even when there was, it was a small amount in the recoil lug pocket. In addition, there's virtually no carbon fiber in the Costa Rica made stocks, probably less than 0.01%. The Montana, Mountain Ascent, Adirondack, Subalpine and Talkeetna stocks consist of a two-part polyeurethane foam core with an outer shell consisting of fiberglass and resin.
The best synthetic stock that Kimber offers is the one made by AG Composites that's used on the Open Range/Open Country 84M rifles. That has a lot of carbon fiber in it, i.e. the entire outer shell is made from a carbon fiber prepreg.
The Hunter stock is a 20% glass-filled polypropylene and it's one of the stiffest stocks available at that price point. The company that makes it also makes stocks for many of the big rifle manufacturers and they will tell you that the Hunter is the best stock they make.
Thanks for that information. Pity the Hunter doesn’t feel the same as the Montana. Too sharp and not as face supporting.
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There hasn't been any Kevlar in a Kimber stock in a long time. Even when there was, it was a small amount in the recoil lug pocket. In addition, there's virtually no carbon fiber in the Costa Rica made stocks, probably less than 0.01%. The Montana, Mountain Ascent, Adirondack, Subalpine and Talkeetna stocks consist of a two-part polyeurethane foam core with an outer shell consisting of fiberglass and resin.
The best synthetic stock that Kimber offers is the one made by AG Composites that's used on the Open Range/Open Country 84M rifles. That has a lot of carbon fiber in it, i.e. the entire outer shell is made from a carbon fiber prepreg.
The Hunter stock is a 20% glass-filled polypropylene and it's one of the stiffest stocks available at that price point. The company that makes it also makes stocks for many of the big rifle manufacturers and they will tell you that the Hunter is the best stock they make.
Thanks for that information MCMXI. I will admit to being slightly disappointed to learn that the Montana stocks are more fiberglass than kevlar. Do you know when they stopped with the kevlar in the Montana's?
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Not looking, but the Hunter my son has is a good rifle at a fair price point. I could live with one if need be.
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Pity the Hunter doesn’t feel the same as the Montana. Too sharp and not as face supporting. One of the challenges when making an injection molded part is that when the mold pulls away from the part it can cause damage if the mold and part surfaces are in shear. The most favorable geometry is when the direction of pull is perpendicular to the surface of the part, but as you can imagine, that's not possible everywhere. The comb of the Hunter stock had to have a different geometry compared to the Montana in order to avoid damage during mold/part separation. I hope that makes sense. I will admit to being slightly disappointed to learn that the Montana stocks are more fiberglass than kevlar. Do you know when they stopped with the kevlar in the Montana's? Even when there was Kevlar it was only in the recoil lug pocket and not much of it. It was a gimmick more than anything and it became difficult to export Kevlar to Costa Rica so it was dropped from use. Even the carbon fiber content only consists of six 1/4" wide ribbons running along each side of the stock, three per side. It doesn't matter though because a properly made fiberglass stock can still be an excellent product. AG Composites uses prepreg sheets to make their stocks. They make a "canoe" which is then filled with low density, high strength fillers. They make some of the best stocks available.
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Thanks MCMX1 ( I see what you did there!).
I prefer the Montana stock, regret selling my Montana 260 a few years ago. Would be nice to see a better stock on the Hunter, or a great aftermarket one.
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The limited chambering offering (308 Win only) for the Super America has been befuddling to me.
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[quote=RedRabbit]The limited chambering offering (308 Win only) for the Super America has been befuddling to me.
Unfortunately, limited and frustrating chamberings are common across of the line of Kimber rifles. They also ought to quit porting so many barrels and chamberings.
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308 is missing from the line up.
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Thanks MCMX1 ( I see what you did there!).
I prefer the Montana stock, regret selling my Montana 260 a few years ago. Would be nice to see a better stock on the Hunter, or a great aftermarket one. There is a better stock on a Hunter. It’s called a Montana.
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308 is missing from the line up. So is the 270. Probably still getting things updated.
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Thanks MCMX1 ( I see what you did there!).
I prefer the Montana stock, regret selling my Montana 260 a few years ago. Would be nice to see a better stock on the Hunter, or a great aftermarket one. There is a better stock on a Hunter. It’s called a Montana. Too right! But a Montana is about $1000 or more than a Hunter here down under!
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I hope not a Montana chambered in 7/08 is on my short list
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Does AG Composites sell the Montana stock to the public? Looked for one to replace a Montana Hunter stock but no luck on their site.
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Can homey get a 6 Creede offered That'd be a nice little deer killin' rig.
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