Just got back from my xfer dealer with a sporterised VZ 24. The scope is about useless as it is mounted and is a no-name besides. Obviously I have to address the safety to mount another scope. Two options I am considering are the Timney Low Safety and the Timney Featherweight trigger with safety. As it sits, the trigger is a mite heavy, but surprisingly crisp so an upgraded trigger is not a high priority, but would be nice. Your thoughts on these two approaches appreciated.
I prefer a safety that also blocks the firing pin, so of the two, the Buhler style would be my pick.
I've always thought it was a disappointing shortcut for high dollar custom rifles to use the trigger safety on a timney. It just doesn't look right to me.
I agree. The trigger-blocking safety is fine and dandy, but personally I prefer a striker blocking safety on a Mauser.
For a real treat, how about a side swing safety? Several out there. Classy and they work, but admittedly a fair amount more money by the time it's installed.
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JAMES A KOBE <Jkob60msn.com> Mon, Aug 13, 2018, 5:59 AM to me
I responded to your PM, I have 6 coming from blueing, $135 each shipped, no paypal.
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I have the tooling to do this myself, but Jim does it better.
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The problem I have with all the wing safeties is that they’re hard to switch off quickly, quietly, on a scoped rifle. I’ve had the left-side FN two-position and the Buehler. The M70-style lets you hold the lever between your thumb and finger and ease it off, but they cost a bunch. The one I have came on the rifle, but ordinarily I’d forgo those as out of my price range. Not long ago I installed a Timney Featherweight on an FN and left the wing in place so I could lock the bolt with the sear lifted off the trigger, but also use the only side safety while holding the rifle at the ready.
Another Mauser sporter is in the works, a Heym, with a right-side wing. Don’t know for sure, but likely it’s a two-position similar to the Buehler. Won’t know for sure until next week as my FFL guy is under quarantine after getting a letter saying he’d been exposed to the Plague at his workplace.
The problem I have with all the wing safeties is that they’re hard to switch off quickly, quietly, on a scoped rifle. I’ve had the left-side FN two-position and the Buehler. The M70-style lets you hold the lever between your thumb and finger and ease it off, but they cost a bunch. The one I have came on the rifle, but ordinarily I’d forgo those as out of my price range. Not long ago I installed a Timney Featherweight on an FN and left the wing in place so I could lock the bolt with the sear lifted off the trigger, but also use the only side safety while holding the rifle at the ready.
Another Mauser sporter is in the works, a Heym, with a right-side wing. Don’t know for sure, but likely it’s a two-position similar to the Buehler. Won’t know for sure until next week as my FFL guy is under quarantine after getting a letter saying he’d been exposed to the Plague at his workplace.
Kindly tell me how you open the bolt with the flag safety in the vertical position, doesn't it hit the scope?
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The commercial FN wing is like the Buehler, only on the left, and it’s trimmer. Only goes to about 10 o’clock, not vertical, so you lose the middle position that lets you open the action with the safety on, and bolt takedown is “complicated”. If the safety is on, the bolt is locked. It is very fast to flip to the fire position if you don’t mind the noise.
More than a few good suggestions here! I'm ever with the "striker impinging" safety on the bolt shroud - KISS principle! Most rugged and positive. That said, nothing 'wrong' with trigger impinging quality adjustable trigger combo safeties. The original FN commercial striker safety of the fifties, left wing mounted. Buhler pattern was only right mount to recollection & 'relatively' silent. Below pix of one on AZ mauser small-ring sporter. Buhler availability perhaps such as eBay??? I do like the Winchester 70 style... For the Winchester. I'd not pay the toll for it where other alternatives available, good and less expensive/complicated install. Just to suggest the best position from which to conjure safety is after scope + mount location & height determined!
Just got back from my xfer dealer with a sporterised VZ 24. The scope is about useless as it is mounted and is a no-name besides. Obviously I have to address the safety to mount another scope. Two options I am considering are the Timney Low Safety and the Timney Featherweight trigger with safety. As it sits, the trigger is a mite heavy, but surprisingly crisp so an upgraded trigger is not a high priority, but would be nice. Your thoughts on these two approaches appreciated.
WIth that scope mounted that way how do you even see through your scope, too much eye relief?
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Just got back from my xfer dealer with a sporterised VZ 24. The scope is about useless as it is mounted and is a no-name besides. Obviously I have to address the safety to mount another scope. Two options I am considering are the Timney Low Safety and the Timney Featherweight trigger with safety. As it sits, the trigger is a mite heavy, but surprisingly crisp so an upgraded trigger is not a high priority, but would be nice. Your thoughts on these two approaches appreciated.
WIth that scope mounted that way how do you even see through your scope, too much eye relief?
You could not see through it at all, or at least I couldn't. to. Someone had to simply stick that of junk on there. Why is a matter of conjecture.