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If you can't find "an answer to what works in the Creed" it's because you haven't tried anything for yourself. Never ask an online question that you are able to answer for yourself, by doing work for yourself. To the folks asking about Superformance and RL-17: Both are much more stable with temps, than H4350, HOWEVER: RL-17 is progressive, and Superformance is VERY VERY progressive in burning curve!!! Don't think you can"walk up the velocity" and gain speed withing pressure limits!! Here are what the curves look like from work were did a few years ago. P.S. if all you can see in this is the speed and pressure, you need you punch yourself in the damn face.
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To the folks asking about Superformance and RL-17: Both are much more stable with temps, than H4350, HOWEVER: ...
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What is the maximum COL the Remington SA magazine admits, please?
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If you can't find "an answer to what works in the Creed" it's because you haven't tried anything for yourself. Never ask an online question that you are able to answer for yourself, by doing work for yourself. In the event you missed the memo, this IS a discussion board.
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Bringing this back up.....
I'm surprised to see such a difference in the Barnes loads you guys are posting here. Looks like 3-4 grains over what Barnes has posted as max. I'm glad to see that though as the velocity numbers that Barnes posts in their info is pretty pathetic compared to others such as Nosler.
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Tagged for load data, thanks.
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My best load is the 123 Scenar with 39 gr of Varget. 2900 fps and .8 for five shots at 200 yards consistently.
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Just picked up a pound of RL16 and some H4350. Anybody made up a load for a 140gn bullet with RL16? Looking at the 260, it appears RL17 uses the same amount of powder as RL16. I'll use that as a guide for the 6.5
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My most accurate load so far has been 41.5 grains of H4350 with 140 Gameking at 2640 fps out of my 22" tube. A max charge of H4350 and 120 grain nosler BT is also very accurate and around 2840 fps in my barrel . I have some loads made up of RL17 with 140 Speer hot cor to try out this Saturday.
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I finally tried some RL16. It showed promise. Best group was 43gn shooting a 140 ELD-M. Measured .58 and clocked at 2682. 44gn was 2750 and still decent at .8". Single data points on the velocity, but it appears to be faster than RL17 or H4350. 41.5 RL17 is still the go-to load for accuracy. H4350 had good accuracy, but very slow at <2600.
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Im about to start stuffing cases with RL17 and H4350.
In the Nosler Manual they loo an awful lot like the same thing.....no?
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yes they are similar. Though I've got a tick more velocity with RL17. Applies to 338-06 and 6.5 CM.
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Up again for round three with the 6.5 Creedmoor - this time without H4350. Anything new? Anyone try Hunter, H100V or maybe Superformance (cheap), with 140s+? Thinking of trying the Hornady 140+ ELD-M, 143 ELD-X, and possibly Nosler 140 CC (cheap). 147 ELD-Match? .697? Damm, that's new! Found a little info here. 147 ELD match info
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I've got the 147 bullets loaded up in 6.5x47 lapua brass right now. Hoping for 2700 foot plus but we'll see. Need a break from work but most of those have involved hunting the last 3 months.
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30338, hope to hear back how they do. I think I'll try them also.
And the 142 ABLR, even if the BC is ONLY .6 or .572, or whatever, that's friggin plenty. Dug through the storage boxes and found 3lbs of RL17 so starting there, and a box of 140 CCs and dies too! Just need brass, bases and pick up the rifle next Friday!
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Went and shot it today. 40.5 grains of IMR4451, CCI mag primer, lapua brass if only obviously and a kiss. 2700 fps, and very accurate. 22" barrel, bartlein 2b. Thinking this and the creed are very close for case capacity. The .697 bc of this 147 eld bullet is pretty impressive. Might have to shoot a doe with it in a few weeks.
This was in a 6.5x47 lapua. Don't use that load for the creed moor.
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The new Hornady bullets are certainly getting a lot of good press, but don't forget about the 129LRAB. BC was tested by Litz at .550 or so and they're light enough to make good speeds.
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