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Originally Posted by wabigoon
Myself, basic training, Fort Leonard Wood, November to February. Coal heat, the army crud.


I would have to say Great Lakes. Boot camp.
Every where else not so bad.

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Originally Posted by flintlocke
If God were to give the world an enema...Parker Arizona is where the nozzle would go in.
Are you talking about any particular range of years/dates? Our experience there was rather good in the 1960s - young educators with two little girls - good schools, very low crime, friendly community, Colorado River Indian Tribes were cooperative, and life on the Cololrado River. Yes - high desert heat June through August but as with all good desert rats, everyone adapted. River/lake was a blessing - swimming, fishing/boating/water skiing/etc. Good desert hunting - dove/quail/mule deer/javelina all around us.

Yes - a long drive (180 miles) to Phx, infusion of a lot of obnoxious Cali strangers to the riverfront many weekends (especially at boat race times) and things like that - but my students and their families were great - mix of farmers/cowboys/business folks/Native Americans - they did well and helped propel me forward in career. Maybe it changed after the late 60s?


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Originally Posted by rem141r
philly suburbs. fuggen polluted, crime ridden, crowded schit hole that i never want to see again.
I realize that some of the close-in Philly suburbs have gone way downhill since I was a kid, but some places I knew and frequented less than 15 miles from downtown Philly (other than actual cities) have stayed very nice - still have relatives/friends and regularly connect with people there. If you are talking N. Phila, W. Phila, Darby, Yeadon, Camden NJ etc. I can understand the drift. Is that what you meant?


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Originally Posted by Snowwolfe
Colorado Springs. Lived there from April 2013 till Oct 2015. Both the wife and I hated it within a week of living there.
I spend a lotta time up there hiking. I like it very much. I do not live there. It’s more expensive in every way to live there than where I do. Their winters are harsher there than where I am, and they have damaging hail there at least a couple of times a year, every year. But, other than that...and depending on where in Colorado Springs one lives...I think it’s a pretty good place for people who like to do a lot of hiking. The opportunities to easily access a tremendous amount of great country are enormous there.


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Originally Posted by flintlocke
If God were to give the world an enema...Parker Arizona is where the nozzle would go in.
Are you talking about any particular range of years/dates? Our experience there was rather good in the 1960s - young educators with two little girls - good schools, very low crime, friendly community, Colorado River Indian Tribes were cooperative, and life on the Cololrado River. Yes - high desert heat June through August but as with all good desert rats, everyone adapted. River/lake was a blessing - swimming, fishing/boating/water skiing/etc. Good desert hunting - dove/quail/mule deer/javelina all around us.

Yes - a long drive (180 miles) to Phx, infusion of a lot of obnoxious Cali strangers to the riverfront many weekends (especially at boat race times) and things like that - but my students and their families were great - mix of farmers/cowboys/business folks/Native Americans - they did well and helped propel me forward in career. Maybe it changed after the late 60s?


The whole world has changed since the late sixties, in many ways not for the better. The sixties, seventies, eighties was a golden age in many ways.

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philly suburbs. fuggen polluted, crime ridden, crowded schit hole that i never want to see again.
I realize that some of the close-in Philly suburbs have gone way downhill since I was a kid, but some places I knew and frequented less than 15 miles from downtown Philly (other than actual cities) have stayed very nice - still have relatives/friends and regularly connect with people there. If you are talking N. Phila, W. Phila, Darby, Yeadon, Camden NJ etc. I can understand the drift. Is that what you meant?


draw a 50 mile circle around center city philly and thats what i am referring to. actually, maybe closer to 100. all crowded, overbuilt, dirty and the air smells like hell. its the fifth largest metro area in the country and it shows. ya, theres some nice little pockets but they are all close to schithole neighborhoods. i lived near yardley, one of the most desirable areas. go a few miles and you had car jackings, shootings, kidnappings, assaults, you name it. that area is poisoned.


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Originally Posted by rem141r
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philly suburbs. fuggen polluted, crime ridden, crowded schit hole that i never want to see again.
I realize that some of the close-in Philly suburbs have gone way downhill since I was a kid, but some places I knew and frequented less than 15 miles from downtown Philly (other than actual cities) have stayed very nice - still have relatives/friends and regularly connect with people there. If you are talking N. Phila, W. Phila, Darby, Yeadon, Camden NJ etc. I can understand the drift. Is that what you meant?
draw a 50 mile circle around center city philly and thats what i am referring to. actually, maybe closer to 100. all crowded, overbuilt, dirty and the air smells like hell. its the fifth largest metro area in the country and it shows. ya, theres some nice little pockets but they are all close to schithole neighborhoods. i lived near yardley, one of the most desirable areas. go a few miles and you had car jackings, shootings, kidnappings, assaults, you name it. that area is poisoned.
yes, Yardley is close enough to N. Phila to get that - but within your 50 mile radius there are some very nice communities, not up against bad ones, and they small pretty good. 100 mile radius will give you a ton of really nice,safe and good-smelling places.


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NYC Housing project in Queens back in the early 60's...Calling it a cesspool would be kind.....They pissed in the hallways, daily.....broke into cars at about the same rate....It was a very colorful neighborhood. Skells, thieves and drug addicts. A nice combo.


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Originally Posted by flintlocke
If God were to give the world an enema...Parker Arizona is where the nozzle would go in.

My bro loves it there. He's an old dune buggy racer and can drive his fancy SXS off road vehicle out his driveway, down the street and out into the desert whenever he wants. Took a night trip the other day. Has a boat for the river too.


The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men.
In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
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I'll take Odessa, TX any day of the week over Fresno, CA.



That's saying a lot about Fresno, that's for sure !



Hey,

My wife rented a place there for a year +. I asked when she took the job, WHY? Well, a $6000K a year raise this year and another $5000 the next if she did a good job. Hard to convince a person not to take that deal. It gave me the chance to leave the desert and go to AK. As long as she was working in another state from me, a good 8-10 hour drive..........I figured I might as well make it an 8-10 hr plane trip and see AK.

I did tell her Fresno was too close to the armpit of Cali...............Bakersfield (and Arvin)


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Originally Posted by atvalaska
Ft knox/ ft Benning. ...your pick ...Washington DC......ugh...you can drive for 4 hours and still be in the same big azz city with a different name!


Try L.A.................on some days you can drive for 4 hours and still be in the same city................well, if you can consider stop and go , mostly stopped, to be driving.


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Originally Posted by AML
Yeeesh! After reading this thread I feel like I've lived a charmed life. Lived a number of different places. None of them bad. I used to have to travel to Hobbs, NM and I was always happy to leave. A lot of 10 year-old pickups with lift kits, exhaust stacks, flotation tires, and BASS stickers. Common housing was old single-wides held together with duct tape. Guys with families "back home" shacked up with underage runaways. Welcome to the oil fields circa 1988.

You say that like it's bad?


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Originally Posted by copperking81
Stafford, VA followed by ASP Dulab, Iraq.



Al Dual. Very nice.

I spent a year bouncing between Hit, Haqlaniyah and Haditha, occasional getting up towards Al Qaim.

Lovely, quaint retirement villages, those are.



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