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Answer might be driven by one's beliefs regarding redemption, or about giving leadership.

Besides the navigation skills, I would think that two guys sitting in the dark next to a dead buffalo might be of interest, do they have grizzlies there?

Birdfugker,

I know you like to pretend that you have a lot of time in the outdoors.

Do it with someone else.

LOL

Insulting other men on the internet is a gift a man gives to himself

You don't think sitting out after dark in the bush in Africa next to a dead buffalo would be remarkable?

Ain't "the outdoors" like, outside?

I don't pretend anything, just state the facts.

Re: Africa: the most remote I got in was me and a friend 70 miles on foot through elephant country across the Afram Plains, but we didn't have to navigate, we asked the locals for directions, footpaths through tall elephant grass during the wet season. Seen where elephants had passed, all the grass pushed aside in like a channel, never saw any. Just as well, elephant grass is so sharp ya get paper cuts from it, the only avenue of retreat would have been up and down the path.

I have used map and compass more'n many, Camp Bullis mostly over a period of years, finding rebar stakes 1,000 - 1,500m away at bird sampling points, before the first GPS units (1994?) arrived and made it easy so there's that. Excellent place to learn how consistent your paces were over uneven terrain, enough relief that you could check yourself for accuracy.

There are ultra light hikers that do the whole trail with no tent and no stove. Using bleach drops for water purification.

Birdfugker,

You’re every teacher I’ve ever met.

LOL

"My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.  "
(Joh 10:27 ESV)

Thankyou.

Local news is saying the woman had a head injury, maybe why she stayed lost for so long. A Garmin Outreach would have had her found within an hour.

An Inreach would have been even faster.

Situational awareness?

Like Jorge1, I shot a buffalo in Africa shortly before dark. One of the trackers took off his heavy coveralls (which they wear over shorts and a shirt--their metabolism is apparently lower and they get cold) and hung them up around the buffalo. This deters hyenas from eating the buffalo. We returned in the morning. At night we had to walk a couple of miles out. At one point we made a wide detour. They explained there was a cow elephant in the path. I didn't even see her. African trackers can see better with their eyes than I could with binoculars.

Boy Scouts of America? They are alive, well, and "straight" where I live.

Where I was the favored wear among the locals in the bush were long heavy raincoats, London Fog being specifically favored.

In the wet season the tall elephant grass (dunno if that is the correct name, we called it that) would paper-cut the heck out of you if you pushed through it. The raincoat also gave protection against tsetse flies.

This thread is pretty funny. If your post has roads trucks or trackers in it you may not get what remote means. Old guys got stuff done for a long time while learning that the indigs often got lost. The current generation of soldiers, climbers and adventurers go farther, faster and carry less gear than most can imagine...many while wearing shorts. Welcome to the 21st century. My ancient growler and I will go for a hike tomorrow in the Gros Ventre Wilderness, I hope we survive


mike r

I use to wear wool, but now there is probably a dozen companies making synthetic stuff that is 10 fold better than wool.

We're all hoping the ancient growler makes it back OK.

She is smart enough to pack out my head and fingertips if I get snuffed. Does your wife



know how to cash in on your demise or did you teach her yourself?




mike r

My son is a wealthy man if I cash in before age 70. I try to be nice to him.

London Fog? Waz a matter with those guys? Shoulda been wearing genuine Burberrys trenchcoats for real protection.

L.W.

Velvet Jones: Yes, your Honor. I know why they didn't find the ho sooner, and I can clear this up just three words: Da bitch UGLY!

I told you!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/sheriffs-sergeant-questioning-rescued-zion-111959948.html


Sgt. Darrell Cashin, who helped the search-and-rescue effort, now says he has questions about Courtier's story, and pointed out multiple discrepancies.

For example, Courtier's daughter told CNN that her mother hit her head early in the hike and became so dehydrated that she couldn't open her mouth.

Cashin doubted this claim, saying park officials said she was able to leave the park on her own, largely unassisted.

Cashin also questioned how Courtier was able to survive nearly two weeks alone without, as her family said, food and little water.