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what one would you rather have, just for sh*ts and giggles.
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I have a .404 Jeffery.
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Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell Proper bullet placement + sufficient penetration = quick, clean kill. Finn Aagard
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that's cool looking rig please details if you don't mind
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Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell Proper bullet placement + sufficient penetration = quick, clean kill. Finn Aagard
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that my friend is one cool rifle!!
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Thank you.
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Rifle is a beaut! Great piece of walnut!
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elkhunter, love the rifle I have played around with 416 Rigby's and 404 Jeffery's. I have since settled on a 416 Remington.. I like the better selection of 416 bullets and plan on working up a loads for the Barnes 350gr TSX and 300gr TSX.. I love the history of the 404, and used one to take a buffalo in Africa. If I could find the right rifle, I would own another one. When I started my big bore journey, I looked very hard at the Taylor cartridge, and had it been commercialized, I probably would have went that direction. So back to the original question. For kicks and giggles, I would probably choose a Taylor for pragmatism and the Jeffery for nostalgia. So whatever tickles your fancy.
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Already have a 416 Taylor, and since having two 40-65's, '74 Sharps and original '86 Winchester, a 400 Whelen, and 400 H&H, don't see myself with ever a need for a 404 Jeffery, I'm flush with 40's, love em all, even 40 S&W and 10mm pistols ; ]
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Wow!!! That rifle sure looks the part,
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If Africa is in your future I would choose the 404 Jeffrey because of ammo availability if your ammo does not make it.
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Damn, I missed it, fine looking 404 Elk, now there's your 400gr solid to ele brain delivery system!
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that my friend is one cool rifle!! Indeed.
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Well, maybe for those smaller wabbits.
Ain’t no .460...
Ha!
But an exceptional rifle.
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I like and own the 404 Jeffery. It is a Dakota Safari that weighs 8.5lbs.
I also own (2) Ruger RSMs in 416 Rigby, and a Dakota African in 416 Rigby. The trouble with these rifles is that they all weigh 9.5 lbs., and I like light rifles, within reason.
I just bought a Ruger SS/Lam African in 416 Ruger, which is close to the 416 Taylor. I think I will like this rifle for wet hunting conditions.
I have only taken the 404 Jeffery to Africa and it brought down two Buffalo for me, using 400 gr. SAF. For my next Buffalo(s), I plan to use the 430 gr. NF bullets. See how they work. I shoot it open sighted and the stock (Safari) fits my small hands perfectly, unlike the Dakota African stock.
Interestingly, the Ruger RSMs at a pound more in weight, recoil more than the lighter 404, probably due to stock design and cartridge ejecta (more powder) of the Rigby.
So, the 404 is my huckleberry. Yes, I love the history of the round as well, and the Rigby is flush with it also in the literature. But, the Jeffery did come first...🙂
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Bud killed a nice buff in Zim, used 400 gr. TSX in Ruger RSM .416 Rigby. PH carried PF M-70 .416 REM. He liked the big Ruger, but said it was too heavy.
I know, I know a PF. PH probably not a Fire contributor, doesn’t realize how likely he is to get himself tromped, toting a PF rifle.
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Bud killed a nice buff in Zim, used 400 gr. TSX in Ruger RSM .416 Rigby. PH carried PF M-70 .416 REM. He liked the big Ruger, but said it was too heavy.
I know, I know a PF. PH probably not a Fire contributor, doesn’t realize how likely he is to get himself tromped, toting a PF rifle.
DF Harry Shelby also used a push feed 458 for a number of years without getting stomped
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Bud killed a nice buff in Zim, used 400 gr. TSX in Ruger RSM .416 Rigby. PH carried PF M-70 .416 REM. He liked the big Ruger, but said it was too heavy.
I know, I know a PF. PH probably not a Fire contributor, doesn’t realize how likely he is to get himself tromped, toting a PF rifle.
DF Harry Shelby also used a push feed 458 for a number of years without getting stomped Yeah, what did ole Harry know.... Probably wasn't a Fire contributor... DF
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I have the Taylor built on a tang safety Ruger action. It's been to Africa and I used it on everything from warthogs to buffalo. I don't thing the light rifle ever got out of the vehicle. I've akso used it on elk and it sees a lot of use during deer season.
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