Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles There is nothing greater than the 30-06 so quit trying

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Can’t really argue with your choices.

I purchased a .270 Win for Daughter #1 and worked up loads for the 150g ABLR @ 2910fps. It will do for elk out to 600 yards with around 18 ft-lbs recoil. I plan to hunt elk in November using a .280 Rem with a 150g ABLRT @ 2998fps. Similar recoil and slightly less terminal energy and velocity at 600. But enough.

There are multiple .30-06 rifles in my safe. Boring but effective.

My 7mm RM was my first centerfire rifle. Got it in 1982. It has been a fine choice and has a permanent home in the safe.

A .300WM was added to my collection to satisfy my curiosity. Great cartridge but it really doesn’t do anything my 7mm RM wasn’t doing. And the 7mm RM does it with less recoil.

In terms of bang for the buck (terminal ballistics vs recoil), I think the 6.5CM has to be added to the list. The 6.5PRC is gaining wide acceptance and I think it will eventually need to be added as well.

I just deep cleaning my .30-06 and one 7x57. I think I’ll scrub up my .35 Whelen and .270 next. No, wait! I don’t have a .270 and likely never will unless someone gives me one with a good scope. Happy Trails

>yep 30-06 is a great cartridge , but for me i need speed and speed kills so hand me my 257 Weatherby Mag. 100 gr. bullet 3800fps which does a great job on bigger bucks ! good luck and have a safe fall,Pete53

The two rifles I would keep if all the others had to go:

- lever 30-30
- bolt 30-06

like em' both

Can’t really argue with your choices.

I purchased a .270 Win for Daughter #1 and worked up loads for the 150g ABLR @ 2910fps. It will do for elk out to 600 yards with around 18 ft-lbs recoil. I plan to hunt elk in November using a .280 Rem with a 150g ABLRT @ 2998fps. Similar recoil and slightly less terminal energy and velocity at 600. But enough.

There are multiple .30-06 rifles in my safe. Boring but effective.

My 7mm RM was my first centerfire rifle. Got it in 1982. It has been a fine choice and has a permanent home in the safe.

A .300WM was added to my collection to satisfy my curiosity. Great cartridge but it really doesn’t do anything my 7mm RM wasn’t doing. And the 7mm RM does it with less recoil.

In terms of bang for the buck (terminal ballistics vs recoil), I think the 6.5CM has to be added to the list.

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Ears Stopped UP.... Ain't listening !

Seriously, I have a Win 70, (Modern Rifle) 6.5X55 and 120s are hitting 3000 fps WITH accuracy.
So I'll pass on the C M bun.

Jerry

ADD: Altho I have and LIKE the 300 WM, I agree with you for MOST applications.
**IMO** the 300 WM can PUSH 200 gr N Pt fast enuff to be flatt FOR hitting large animals at LONG range.

However, I'm NOT likely to have that opportunity so.........

I have chosen the 7 RM as MY 1 and Done !
Mind you I'm NOT selling all the rest.

I have taken a lot of game with the 30-06 and I could have done all the big game hunting with that round. But owning one rifle would be boring I am sure and I still have the old 30-06 which gets hauled around as a backup rifle on a lot of trips. Usually gets pulled out around the end of the year as it is a lucky rifle. As for it's recoil being a bit tough for some of you manbun types cry me a river.

This is pretty darn close to where I'm at. 280 bolt and 30-30 lever. North America is covered.

Recoil too much from a 30-06? My 120 pound wife doesn't think so. A stock that fits properly and proper shooting technique make a world of difference.

Right On Mr Books !! grin

Jerry

The only problem with the .30-06 as a big game cartridge is it is so versatile it is boring 😀

Kind of off topic, and I’m just throwing this out there quickly, because it’s up in my craw, there’s been some back-n-forth about short action vs long, the .308, etc etc, and you guys have way more experience than me - quick question -

Will an 06 throw a 220 grainer at superior or inferior ballistics to a .358 win? And then down to a 200 gr?

Honest question. I like short actions and levers and scout rifles. Been wanting something that throws a heavier pill than my .308 99 sav. Does the 06 do so much better in that 200 to 220 grain bullet range? Irregardless of the action length in the rifle specified.

Please don’t go off on tangents. Just say if .358 will toss a 220 gr round equally or less than what an 06 would. Or, a 200 grain.
Thanks gents!

Edited again - to add - I know this potentially opens a parallel universe discussion about .35 cals.The Whelen, (off the 06 parent case) etc. not apples to apples, I understand. Not trying to stir that pot. Just wondering if the .358 w is ‘as good’ (ballistically) or better option for tossing the heavier pills at the top end of what an 06 will. That is all.

I am sure I have it all wrong

I bought a stainless Browning A-bolt BOSS in 1995
Swtiched the BOSS weight for a suppressor
Oh ya, almost forgot, 30-06

to this day shoots 3/4" groups or less with the suppressor (original BOSS System was 1/2")

I use Hornady Superformace 165g that clock at 2880-2900 from a 20" barrel

I live/hunt around 10,000' elev. with that in the equation I am zeroed at 240y, and have 2000lb energy at 400y

I was in a tiny Native Village in AK, the only ammo they had in in stock was [s]30 Remington AR[/s], opps or a I mean 30-06, a quite but priceless Value to the 30-06

Uh Huh ! Uh Huh ! I like it. Uh Huh ! Uh Huh! I like it

Besides it is Old School!

Jerry

Mr Harry, in my experience, the 358 winchester will launch from a 20" barrel:

275 grain woodleigh @ 2200 fps
250 grain a-frame @ 2400 fps
225 grain partition @ 2500 fps
200 grain ttsx @ 2700fps

Alliant RL 10x used for all the above loads.

That is on par with the 30-06. Anyhow having put away thousands of lbs of moose n caribou meat with the 358, dont sweat the hypothetical ballistic bullsht. Get your a s s in gear and go buy one. You won't regret it.

You're right. Who has time to read eight pages of response confirming this? ;-)

Hahaha.
Just socking away the $ and waiting for the right rifle to appear. Not like there’s tons of them around. I missed out on one I could kick myself for. Another Will come.

Well exactly what will a 358 do that an 06 can't with the 06 running 200 grain Partitions at top velocities? Or a 308 for that matter? Big 358 fan here.

Nice, good luck. If prices are too steep, grab up any 243, 260, 7mm-08, or 308 and send to jes reboring. It'll come back to you a 358 win for about $250.

http://www.35caliber.com/8.html

Par with 30/-06 — ONLY in MUZZLE fpe and
everyone knows that E doesn’t mean anything. ?

Those same Bullet weights in 35 CAN NOT keep pace with the
SAME. bullet weight in a 30-06.... B C makes a LOT diff.

+ 30 cal.

NOW, Don’t call me prejudiced...... I had a Sav 99 358. AND a BLR 358
AND killed Deer & Turkeys with them. At the time, 1981–86, you could hunt Turkey not only with a rifle but also handguns )

From 100yds ON out the 06 will lay the 358 in the shade.

Thats not prejudice, it’s ballistical ...mathematical fact.

Jerry