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You pretty much can without dignifying sodomy. For one, power of attorney. Inheritance can be covered by a will. Family insurance?! I don't really get that, seems like you should have a family for that. The entire idea of law is to promote general welfare, something sodomy wrecks.

As for the rest of your post...What, Freedom? What governments going to get behind a crazy idea like that?

Will wait for someone to answer that one.

DF

How good is the “general welfare” of families when over 50% of first marriages end in divorce, and an even greater percentage of second marriages end in divorce, and an even still greater percentage of third marriages end in divorce...? And NONE of those failures has anything to do with “dignifying sodomy.” Giving these people the ability to provide for their “general welfare” in the ways that Nebraska mentioned above, while not infringing on your “general welfare” in any way whatsoever, seems right.

"Universal Church"?

By that, do you mean Islam?

The Bibles only has a bit little bit to do with that. About 1/3 of the Koran was lifted from in, and even less of the Hadiths.

So what are they missing out on? If we want limited government why is anyone treated any different by our government? If they share a home and one dies the other can assume ownership ahead of time by the two of them having a quit claim deed made. Tax breaks? Why not get the government out of taxing based on being married. They are so many ways for a same sex couple to assure themselves of the kind of future they want and leave the institution of marriage alone. In the long run it's got nothing to do with that though but more to do with destroying the family unit and anything that is decent.

The Bible is also clear on the matters of lying, cheating, fraud, adultery, pride, drunkenness, envy, wrath, sloth, greed, gluttony, lust, and a host of other sins. But NONE of em’ get the attention...nor elicit the emotion...that homosexuality does. Sin is sin in God’s eyes. One persons lies are no worse than one persons drunkenness or another’s sexual immorality. Sexual sin ‘is’ mentioned as being different than other sins...NOT because it’s worse to God...but because when you sin sexually you hurt yourself deeply - it stays with you throughout your life - it’s worse for you. Do churches who take such a staunch stand against homosexuality...ANY of em’...take an equivalent staunch stand against ‘any’ of the other sins listed above, or the host of other sins...? Their pews are full of sinners - adulterers, drunks, tax cheats, gluttons, men who beat their wives and/or kids, greedy people, fraudsters, etc...., but God forbid there’s a homosexual sittin’ in one of those pews. Jesus’ harshest words were reserved for hypocrites.

I tolja bout dis yestiddy

There's something else:
1 Cor 6:18 Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body.
19 Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own,
20 for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body.

Sexual sin, by being against your own body, is against the Holy Spirit. You don't mess with the HS. The only sin that can't be forgiven is against Him. Illicit sex isn't the unforgivable sin, of course, but the point is that it's against the HS and that's powerful stuff.

There are no levels of sin.

Strongly disagree.

A man gets too much change given back, knows it yet walks away.

A man committed heinous acts against and upon a child then murders the child to ostensibly hide the acts.

In the eyes of man, yes. In the eyes of God, no.

You know this, how?

The way to have someone get what they want is a little at a time. Perfect example of moving everyone to accept LBGQT and whatever the other letters are.. I say no to all of it. If people want to live together fine, if they want to share things fine, get a lawyer draw up a contract. Leave the Gov out of it and let the church stay out of it and go by the bible and not what one very liberal pope says..

Any opinion the pope has is irrelevant as far as I'm concerned . I don't worship the pope .

The early church was simple, meeting in peoples homes, and being persecuted. Then Emperor Constantine became a Christian, and all the old temples just changed the name on the door to Christian. Many of the old gods rituals were brought into the church, thus evolved the Catholic church. Christians didn't really go back to simple Christianity until the Protestant Reformation. The Protestant Reformation brought more freedoms and less government to the people, eventually leading to America which was founded on Protestant Christian principles. Thus we were blessed and prospered. We as Americans weren't perfect, but it eventually lead to a more free life. However with freedom comes responsibility to fight off sin and evil things. When the majority of people were Christians in America things were more civil, even with problems of racism and segregation, most people were civil. America forgetting God, has opened the door to all manner of sins, like homosexuality, divorce, adultry, children without fathers, pedophilia, stealing, riots, lootings, etc. America needs to turn back to God or we will have more and worse problems.

Without a moral compass, the only way to have order is by force, thus you see how Communism, Facism, and Socialism take root. And the order is forced by the elitists few, like the social media giants, the Democrat (communist) party, and big government bureaucracies.

A viewpoint:

A sin might be seen as a marble.... a little sin like telling a lie....., it might be a cantaloupe, a bigger sin like robbery..... it might be a basketball, a more vicious sin like murder. All sin .... but coming in different sizes and having different effects.

But, it is a black marble of sin.... a black cantaloupe or and a black basketball.

All sin, big and small is all black.

I go to church.

That’s not a whole lot different than me saying that I go to Home Depot or I know a minister, two priests and a nun.

No slam meant.