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Severity of the crime at issue? Was the suspect actively resisting and attempting to flee an arrest? Was the suspect an immediate danger to the officer and public?
The answers to those questions will determine legality.
Unless he was a fleeing felon the officer was attempting to apprehend...the see Tn v Garner. Did you watch the video? Im not saying it was a bad shoot. I am saying the 3 prong test provided in the Graham vs. Connor decision will ultimately determine if it was a good shoot. Not your uninformed opinions. I’m aware what graham vs Connor says, you just sound like a retard trying to make everyone else look stupid. It’s a video of a guy pulling a weapon on a cop during a wrestling match on the street. I don’t think the average dude needs to look at court cases from the 80’s to decide it’s a good shoot.
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Severity of the crime at issue? Was the suspect actively resisting and attempting to flee an arrest? Was the suspect an immediate danger to the officer and public?
The answers to those questions will determine legality.
Unless he was a fleeing felon the officer was attempting to apprehend...the see Tn v Garner. I avoid the language "fleeing felon." It may be a felony to import parakeets without following certain procedures. I am not sure that elevates the threat the person poses. And thankfully you are not a SCOTUS justice. Because time and time again you post dumschiet like the above.
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Severity of the crime at issue? Was the suspect actively resisting and attempting to flee an arrest? Was the suspect an immediate danger to the officer and public?
The answers to those questions will determine legality.
Unless he was a fleeing felon the officer was attempting to apprehend...the see Tn v Garner. So, if the police are called because a man is acting irrationally, jumping up and down on cars, and armed, what are the cops supposed to do? I'm just providing you what the supreme court decided in Graham vs. Connor, a landmark case in use of deadly force. Tennessee vs. Garner specifically deals with deadly force use regarding a fleeing felon. This case law, not my opinion, however I do understand how ignorant most of you are on the subject. Tell us what Tn vs Garner says about a "fleeing felon."
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Severity of the crime at issue? Was the suspect actively resisting and attempting to flee an arrest? Was the suspect an immediate danger to the officer and public?
The answers to those questions will determine legality.
Unless he was a fleeing felon the officer was attempting to apprehend...the see Tn v Garner. I wonder how severe pulling a gun on a cop is.........
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Severity of the crime at issue? Was the suspect actively resisting and attempting to flee an arrest? Was the suspect an immediate danger to the officer and public?
The answers to those questions will determine legality.
Unless he was a fleeing felon the officer was attempting to apprehend...the see Tn v Garner. So, if the police are called because a man is acting irrationally, jumping up and down on cars, and armed, what are the cops supposed to do? I'm just providing you what the supreme court decided in Graham vs. Connor, a landmark case in use of deadly force. Tennessee vs. Garner specifically deals with deadly force use regarding a fleeing felon. This case law, not my opinion, however I do understand how ignorant most of you are on the subject. Tell us what Tn vs Garner says about a "fleeing felon." There you go numbnuts
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Severity of the crime at issue? Was the suspect actively resisting and attempting to flee an arrest? Was the suspect an immediate danger to the officer and public?
The answers to those questions will determine legality.
Unless he was a fleeing felon the officer was attempting to apprehend...the see Tn v Garner. I wonder how severe pulling a gun on a cop is......... Obviously a violent felony. And you could probably articulate the act put the officer in immediate danger......so what would that make the shooting? Justified. It's that simple. Pull your head out of your azz people.
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Severity of the crime at issue? Was the suspect actively resisting and attempting to flee an arrest? Was the suspect an immediate danger to the officer and public?
The answers to those questions will determine legality.
Unless he was a fleeing felon the officer was attempting to apprehend...the see Tn v Garner. Did you miss the part where he drew a weapon? Makes everything you wrote moot.
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Severity of the crime at issue? Was the suspect actively resisting and attempting to flee an arrest? Was the suspect an immediate danger to the officer and public?
The answers to those questions will determine legality.
Unless he was a fleeing felon the officer was attempting to apprehend...the see Tn v Garner. Did you watch the video? Im not saying it was a bad shoot. I am saying the 3 prong test provided in the Graham vs. Connor decision will ultimately determine if it was a good shoot. Not your uninformed opinions. I’m aware what graham vs Connor says, you just sound like a retard trying to make everyone else look stupid. It’s a video of a guy pulling a weapon on a cop during a wrestling match on the street. I don’t think the average dude needs to look at court cases from the 80’s to decide it’s a good shoot. They should. Perhaps not in this circumstance because it appears to be obvious, but most of these 'tards are completely ignorant to what actually matters in a deadly force incident when determining the justification. These same mopes would be frothing at the mouth if the camera angle was different (about a foot to the left) and the suspect was a different race and was wearing a maga hat....fact.
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Severity of the crime at issue? Was the suspect actively resisting and attempting to flee an arrest? Was the suspect an immediate danger to the officer and public?
The answers to those questions will determine legality.
Unless he was a fleeing felon the officer was attempting to apprehend...the see Tn v Garner. So, if the police are called because a man is acting irrationally, jumping up and down on cars, and armed, what are the cops supposed to do? I'm just providing you what the supreme court decided in Graham vs. Connor, a landmark case in use of deadly force. Tennessee vs. Garner specifically deals with deadly force use regarding a fleeing felon. This case law, not my opinion, however I do understand how ignorant most of you are on the subject. Tell us what Tn vs Garner says about a "fleeing felon." There you go numbnuts Thank you for illustrating exactly why I avoid the language "fleeing felon." "The use of deadly force to prevent the escape of all felony suspects, whatever the circumstances, is constitutionally unreasonable. Pp. 7-12." The policy I operated under read as such. Deadly force may be used on a fleeing suspect when: 1.The person committed a crime involving the use or threatened use of deadly force. and 2.The person is armed or otherwise poses a threat to others. and 3.The person has disobeyed an order to stop. and 4. the use of deadly force by the officer doesn't pose an undue risk to others. See, no use of the word fleeing felon.
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Severity of the crime at issue? Was the suspect actively resisting and attempting to flee an arrest? Was the suspect an immediate danger to the officer and public?
The answers to those questions will determine legality.
Unless he was a fleeing felon the officer was attempting to apprehend...the see Tn v Garner. Did you miss the part where he drew a weapon? Makes everything you wrote moot. Did you miss my reply directly before your question, einstein?
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Severity of the crime at issue? Was the suspect actively resisting and attempting to flee an arrest? Was the suspect an immediate danger to the officer and public?
The answers to those questions will determine legality.
Unless he was a fleeing felon the officer was attempting to apprehend...the see Tn v Garner. I wonder how severe pulling a gun on a cop is......... Obviously a violent felony. And you could probably articulate the act put the officer in immediate danger......so what would that make the shooting? Justified. It's that simple. Pull your head out of your azz people. My head is out of my ass and TN vs Garner doesn't belong in this discussion. I don't know why you brought it up.
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Severity of the crime at issue? Was the suspect actively resisting and attempting to flee an arrest? Was the suspect an immediate danger to the officer and public?
The answers to those questions will determine legality.
Unless he was a fleeing felon the officer was attempting to apprehend...the see Tn v Garner. So, if the police are called because a man is acting irrationally, jumping up and down on cars, and armed, what are the cops supposed to do? I'm just providing you what the supreme court decided in Graham vs. Connor, a landmark case in use of deadly force. Tennessee vs. Garner specifically deals with deadly force use regarding a fleeing felon. This case law, not my opinion, however I do understand how ignorant most of you are on the subject. Tell us what Tn vs Garner says about a "fleeing felon." There you go numbnuts Thank you for illustrating exactly why I avoid the language "fleeing felon." "The use of deadly force to prevent the escape of all felony suspects, whatever the circumstances, is constitutionally unreasonable. Pp. 7-12." The policy I operated under read as such. Deadly force may be used on a fleeing suspect when: 1.The person committed a crime involving the use or threatened use of deadly force. and 2.The person is armed or otherwise poses a threat to others. and 3.The person has disobeyed an order to stop. and 4. the use of deadly force by the officer doesn't pose an undue risk to others. See, no use of the word fleeing felon. Yes and they specifically state deadly force is not justified in apprehension of a non violent felon. So what does that tell you?
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Severity of the crime at issue? Was the suspect actively resisting and attempting to flee an arrest? Was the suspect an immediate danger to the officer and public?
The answers to those questions will determine legality.
Unless he was a fleeing felon the officer was attempting to apprehend...the see Tn v Garner. So, if the police are called because a man is acting irrationally, jumping up and down on cars, and armed, what are the cops supposed to do? I'm just providing you what the supreme court decided in Graham vs. Connor, a landmark case in use of deadly force. Tennessee vs. Garner specifically deals with deadly force use regarding a fleeing felon. This case law, not my opinion, however I do understand how ignorant most of you are on the subject. Tell us what Tn vs Garner says about a "fleeing felon." There you go numbnuts Thank you for illustrating exactly why I avoid the language "fleeing felon." "The use of deadly force to prevent the escape of all felony suspects, whatever the circumstances, is constitutionally unreasonable. Pp. 7-12." The policy I operated under read as such. Deadly force may be used on a fleeing suspect when: 1.The person committed a crime involving the use or threatened use of deadly force. and 2.The person is armed or otherwise poses a threat to others. and 3.The person has disobeyed an order to stop. and 4. the use of deadly force by the officer doesn't pose an undue risk to others. See, no use of the word fleeing felon. Yes and they specifically state deadly force is not justified in apprehension of a non violent felon. So what does that tell you? It tells me to avoid the language fleeing felon.
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Severity of the crime at issue? Was the suspect actively resisting and attempting to flee an arrest? Was the suspect an immediate danger to the officer and public?
The answers to those questions will determine legality.
Unless he was a fleeing felon the officer was attempting to apprehend...the see Tn v Garner. I wonder how severe pulling a gun on a cop is......... Obviously a violent felony. And you could probably articulate the act put the officer in immediate danger......so what would that make the shooting? Justified. It's that simple. Pull your head out of your azz people. My head is out of my ass and TN vs Garner doesn't belong in this discussion. I don't know why you brought it up. Nope this is a Graham vs. Connor applicable situation. I'm surprised you of all people didn't want the cop to get on his knees and beg for forgiveness. Or perhaps attempt to de-escalate the situation with kumbaya time around a campfire. Because you're an idiot. Let us not forget your love for the patron saint Floyd.
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When the hell has anyone on this site defended a white guy wearing a maga hat fighting a cop?
When has that even happened?
Or are you just being obtuse because you’re a retard?
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Based on Graham vs. Connor it was 100% justifiable use of force.
It's not even debatable.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Based on Graham vs. Connor it was 100% justifiable use of force.
It's not even debatable. Wow that was simple. No outrage or hyperbole.
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Shooting aside, that was a good takedown!
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Was the cop a midget or was the oppressed minority Oxblood Oxheart?
Eliminate qualified immunity and you'll eliminate cops who act like they are above the law.
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