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[[/quote]You got that right. Oregon's not going Republican for a long time if ever. Don't know why I even vote.
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You need to keep voting................ IF by some stroke they actually pass the NPVIC, then EVERY vote will matter.... and could be that the REP voters residing in those hell holes of liberalism will be the ones that make the difference....

What is NPVIC? Florida is not exactly a bastion of Conservatism. Will she go for trump 03 Nov?

NPVIC is a misguided attempt by a bunch of liberals to circumvent the electoral college.

I agree, and millions more will vote FOR TRUMP.

I hope you are right, but I wouldn't bet on it.

I hope Trump loses and goes to jail. I think he will. From the Times. The real one:

The Final Debate

Last night’s presidential debate felt much more normal than this year’s first one. The candidates interrupted each other only occasionally rather than constantly. They argued about big policy issues like the coronavirus, foreign policy and more.

But the debate wasn’t normal by the standards of nearly all of American history. It wasn’t normal because one of the nominees — the sitting president — told one lie after another. He did so about the virus, North Korea, China, Russia, climate change, his own health care policy, Joe Biden’s health care policy, Biden’s finances and the immigrant children who were separated from their parents.

I understand you may be tired of hearing about President Trump’s untruths. I’m tired of writing about them. They hardly qualify as surprising anymore.

But it’s impossible to analyze a debate filled with untruths without first acknowledging them. They undermine an event meant to highlight differences between candidates. They undermine democracy. To ignore them is to miss the biggest story: a president trying to construct his own reality.

How are voters supposed to choose between, say, two different health care plans if one candidate makes up stories about both plans?

No previous president has behaved this way. Democrats often accused George W. Bush of lying, and Republicans accused Barack Obama of lying. And both men made questionable statements and statements that later proved untrue. But when they proved untrue, Bush and Obama stopped making the claims. Trump just keeps making them.

Debate analysis

“From a lying perspective, Trump is even worse tonight than in the first debate … an absolute avalanche of lying” — CNN’s Daniel Dale, who’s been probably the most committed Trump fact checker.

“Biden was again imperfect from a fact check perspective. He made at least a few false, misleading, or lacking-in-context claims. Trump was, as usual, a serial liar.” — Dale. (A Times fact check of both candidates is here.)

“Trump was far more disciplined. He landed a few sharp attacks, even as he diverted into some issues that seem more like fodder for the conservative media-sphere.” — The Times’s Lisa Lerer.

“The subjects Trump most wishes to discuss are ones largely disconnected from those that matter most to voters.” — Jane Coaston, Vox.

“This debate probably isn’t going to hurt Senate Republican candidates in a way the first debate did.” — Jessica Taylor, Cook Political Report.

The moderator, NBC’s Kristen Welker, won praise as the best, most commanding moderator of this debate season (and she had the advantage of the candidates being muted for stretches while the other was speaking).

Two post-debate polls both found Biden to be the winner, by 54 percent to 35 percent in CNN’s and 53 percent to 39 percent in YouGov’s.

Biden got put to bed last night and you know it. You're spittin pissed but you recognize what's coming in 10 days... don't you sweatheart. And yes, the next four years are going to be every bit as bad for you as you can imagine. And we're going to relentlessly rub that chit in your face.... lol. Cheers kiddo

Yup

The Times.... Yawnsville.

cnn gonna implode from all their lies.

Just stop typing, you fugking fool.

The Navy SEALS could use more strong men like you

Well I don't see you or anyone else willing to lay money T will win bigly.