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Please quote ‘my description of hell’ that you’re referring to. RJY66, I’ve seen you post this before; I saved it. Good stuff: “Good people don't go to heaven and bad people don't go to hell. Forgiven people go to heaven. Unforgiven people go to hell.”
That is not the kind of Hell that Jesus visited. surely any good astute christian would know that? So where’s the specific “description” of hell...? Is mentioning the word “hell” a “description” of hell to you...?
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So you cherry pick from the definition I provided. how convenient.
Well according to you, If I say I m going out for a beer and burger tomorrow, it's classed as a prophecy.
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So you cherry pick from the definition I provided. how convenient. You didn’t provide “the” definition. You provided ‘multiple’ definitions.
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You provided ‘multiple’ definitions.
LOL not at all, def. seems rather specific. re: PROPHECY = The foretelling or prediction of what is to come. something that is declared by a prophet, especially a divinely inspired prediction, instruction, or exhortation. a divinely inspired utterance or revelation: oracular
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So you cherry pick from the definition I provided. how convenient. You didn’t provide “the” definition. You provided ‘multiple’ definitions. PROPHECY (def.)the foretelling or prediction of what is to come. something that is declared by a prophet, especially a divinely inspired prediction, instruction, or exhortation. a divinely inspired utterance or revelation. Yep. Each one is a ‘different’ definition. Clearly.
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.... Forgiven people go to heaven. Unforgiven people go to hell.”
So where’s the specific “description” of hell...? Is mentioning the word “hell” a “description” of hell to you...?
You described hell as a place for the unforgiven, The hell Jesus visited holds everybody regardless. You seem unfamiliar with the Jewish place called sheol, otherwise referred to as hades(Greek) or hell (Apostles creed) Sheol/hades/hell is a realm with two divisions, as such your definition of hell does not apply.
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PROPHECY (def.)the foretelling or prediction of what is to come. something that is declared by a prophet, especially a divinely inspired prediction, instruction, or exhortation. a divinely inspired utterance or revelation. Yep. Each one is a ‘different’ definition. Clearly. You are conveniently dividing up what came as a full explanation, then being selective of what suites you. No different cherry picking scripture.
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.... Forgiven people go to heaven. Unforgiven people go to hell.” So where’s the specific “description” of hell...? Is mentioning the word “hell” a “description” of hell to you...? You described hell as a place for the unforgiven, The hell Jesus visited holds everybody regardless. You seem unfamiliar with the Jewish place called sheol, otherwise referred to as hades or hell. Prior to Jesus’ death ‘and’ resurrection, the righteous and the wicked souls went to Sheol...which had two compartments...one was a place of torment, and the other was a place of comfort and rest. After Jesus’ resurrection, righteous souls went and go to Heaven...and the wicked souls remain and go to the place of torment, until the final judgment. Forgiven people ‘do’ go to Heaven, and unforgiven people ‘do’ go to hell.
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PROPHECY (def.)the foretelling or prediction of what is to come. something that is declared by a prophet, especially a divinely inspired prediction, instruction, or exhortation. a divinely inspired utterance or revelation. Yep. Each one is a ‘different’ definition. Clearly. You are conveniently dividing up what came as a full explanation, then being selective of what suites you. Nope. It most definitely was not a “full explanation.” Many definitions provide multiple example definitions of whichever word is being defined, as yours clearly did.
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Prior to Jesus’ death ‘and’ resurrection, the righteous and the wicked souls went to Sheol...which had two compartments..
Prior? Jesus did not visit Sheol prior to his death, He did so after, and it was the exact same sheol that existed before his death. He decended to Sheol in the time between death and resurrection.
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. Nope. It most definitely was not a “full explanation.” Many definitions provide multiple example definitions of whichever word is being defined, as yours clearly did.
the dictionary source I used did not divide them up as separate definitions. .. You did.
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Prior to Jesus’ death ‘and’ resurrection, the righteous and the wicked souls went to Sheol...which had two compartments...one was a place of torment, and the other was a place of comfort and rest. After Jesus’ resurrection, righteous souls went and go to Heaven...and the wicked souls remain and go to the place of torment, until the final judgment. Forgiven people ‘do’ go to Heaven, and unforgiven people ‘do’ go to hell. Prior? Jesus did not visit Sheol prior to his death, He did so after, and it was the exact same that existed prior to his death. He decended to Sheol in the time between death and resurrection. NOTHING you’ve said negated anything in my post above.
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Nope. It most definitely was not a “full explanation.” Many definitions provide multiple example definitions of whichever word is being defined, as yours clearly did. the dictionary source I used did not divide them up as separate definitions. .. You did. Nope. Your source clearly divided them up as the multiple example definitions that they are. Hence the use of periods by your source.
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Orior to Jesus’ death ‘and’ resurrection, the righteous and the wicked souls went to Sheol...which had two compartments...
Jewish belief says Shoel still employs two compartments where the righteous and wicked are kept.
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Jewish belief says Shoel still employs two compartments where the righteous and wicked are kept. So what...? “Jewish belief” also says that Jesus isn’t the Messiah.
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“Jewish belief” also says that Jesus isn’t the Messiah.
They could well be correct. after Jesus’ resurrection, righteous souls went and go to Heaven...and the wicked souls remain and go to the place of torment,. How would you know? How do you know Sheol isn't operating as normal.?
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“Jewish belief” also says that Jesus isn’t the Messiah.
They could well be correct. They're not. After Jesus’ resurrection, righteous souls went and go to Heaven...and the wicked souls remain and go to the place of torment, until the final judgment. Forgiven people ‘do’ go to Heaven, and unforgiven people ‘do’ go to hell. How would you know otherwise...?
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You are making the claim that Sheol no longer operates like days of old.
again how would you know such?
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