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MARLIN 1895 4570 #15347444 10/26/20
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I was so pleased with my 444 that I decided to take the plunge with the 45-70 (I've never owned that caliber). Very pleased with overall fit, function and accuracy. I was going to put a peep sight on it, but these new Marlins are NOT drilled for peeps and I really need a scope nowadays so I committed blasphemy and put a Leupold (so I guess double blasphemer) 4X on it. Loaded and shot 8 rounds of Hornady 325 FTXs at 100 yards after initial sight in @ 25.:

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Congratulations on your purchase.

I really like the 1895s and have 3 of them. a std. 22" barrel, one straight stocked guide gun, and a guide big lever. Have a '69 444 and a '81 35 Rem also.

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All of a sudden, my safe is infested with them! didn't realize how much I like and enjoy hunting with them. Aside from the new 444 and 4570, I have a 1981 vintage 444, an 1892 in 44 Mag and the sweetest 336 RC (1952 manufacture) in 32 Win Special.... It's a sickness I tell you.


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The Williams receiver sight uses the rear scope base holes.

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Originally Posted by Vic_in_Va
The Williams receiver sight uses the rear scope base holes.


Not the ones I always installed on my Marlins. They were always mounted on the side.


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Congrats jorge! I’d wanted a Marlin GG 45-70 ever since they came out. Got one 4 years ago, and finially shot it about 5 weeks ago. Ten shots on first outing, the first 5 to get on paper, then these 5 at 100, using a 1-4 Vortex, with my homegrown 430 grain WFN @ 1789 fps average.

Very happy with rifle and load performance! I hope to get back to my home state and poke a hog with it! memtb


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I have a 41 mag and a 45-70.

They will grow on you even if you put a scope on them. wink

Glad for you.

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Congratulations on the lever gun interest.
I have had a resurgence of interest myself. I have had 45-70’s in the safe for years. But, interest waned when the eyes and iron sights use went downhill, including apertures. So 1ea blued and 1ea stainless 45-70’s with 20” barrels sit far back in the safe.

After my wife acquired M92 replicas in 357 and 44, Finally, reluctantly ordered scope bases for the 45-70. I have a scope mounted on the stainless, but not fired yet. But, I have been on a lever action binge since. Winchester 94 30-30 Trapper, then a Marlin 1894 45 Colt, Winchester 94M laminated, Winchester 94 Trappers in 357, 44, 45 Colt, and a Browning Micro 22.

Yep, they are addictive. And now waiting to see what Ruger will produce in the Marlins. I have accepted that mine will wear scopes and moved forward. Absolutely fun Guns.
And the 45-70 with 400 grain plus hard cast and/or 350 grain plus flat point copper bullets, is a potent closer range package.

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Originally Posted by jorgeI
Originally Posted by Vic_in_Va
The Williams receiver sight uses the rear scope base holes.


Not the ones I always installed on my Marlins. They were always mounted on the side.


You have previously had an older Marlin...call Brownell's for the top screw model.

The caliber is a dream for reloading. Bullets from 250 grains to 500 are easily found. Velocity can be from 1100 fps to over 2000 fps depending on bullet and load.

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Thanks all. memb, that's an outstanding target! I'm going to load some cast pills my buddyFLyBoy Flem cast for me.. Just waiting on the brass now. Care to share your load?


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Really depends on the bullets.

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Thanks jorge, There was some, OK probably a lot, of luck involved there. I stepped-up the charge a bit, and the group opened some! It appears that the first load, may just be the best load! Good Luck with yours! I’ve been a one gun hunter for 30 years.....but, I’m getting a little anxious to take this one hunting! memtb

Load Data: The usual “WARNING”, as this is not a real timid load

A for what’s it’s worth note: I hand-lapped the barrel prior to any shooting

Case: Starline Nickel
Bullet: Accurate Mold #46-430GV ( 430 grain wide flat nose) Powder Coated, Gas Checked, Sized to 0.459”, Seated and Crimped in Last Groove
Powder: RL 7 43.0 grains
Primer: CCI Standard

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Thanks!


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FWIW the XS sights use the rear scope mount holes. I have the XS on all 3 of my Marlins, including my 1895SS, as well as the scout rail to put a red dot or long eye relief scope when wanted. I've been carrying my 45/70 some this year, I love the old girl. I plan on chopping 3-4" off the barrel this spring to make it a little handier in the brush.

edit to add: I'm shooting 50 grains Varget w/ 405 gr Lasercast at 1650 fps for now. Haven't killed anything with that load yet, but it'll blow through some serious chunks of wood @ 50y. Previously I shot the 300 gr Hornady HP with enough IMR4198 to get 2250 fps. Blow a coyote into pieces, and shot a doe in the back of the head @ 150 yards. Accurate load, I had initially loaded them to 2400, but recoil was more than I wanted.

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Your welcome jorge, I hope that you find something that makes you smile! memtb


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I have some other good recipes from Woody, but I will surely report back once I'm done. Thanks again!


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Your going to like your Marlin a lot Jorge. Great rifle in a great a cartridge. Mine is from 1978, I bought used 18 years ago. Refinished it, changed the trigger and ejector and smoothed it up some. Mine has a scope mounted mostly because I find peep sights difficult in low light.
Shoot mostly reloads in it, I don’t load it to to hot, no need. The load I use most, for deer, 300gr Hornady at about 1400-1500 fps goes completely through and leaves a impressive blood trail.

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I like my 45-70 Cowboy, 26" Ballard rifled. It had a tang sight, but my antique eyes dictated going glass.

I cut back the comb to look more like the old long tang guns. Refinished with Tung Oil/Urethane, had it checkered in a classic pattern by Errol Case in MO.

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I liked the tang sight look...

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the top of the Marlin receiver is drilled and tapped for scope bases and the XS and Skinner receiver/peep sight attaches to these holes. Both are top choices for a rugged and reliable iron sight. Skinner Sights also offers theirs with a machined cut out that Talley and I think Warne medium height quick detach rings attach to allowing a quick removal of the scope for peep sight use. Best of both worlds?

Loads depend on bullet you use and what you plan on killing. Here in Alaska I run the no longer made bonded bullets from Alaska Bullet Works in 350 and 405 grains. Starline brass, WLR primers and a case full of H322 is all I use.

What the heck do you use a 45-70 on in Florida. I would use it on gators, snakes and sharks, they scare crap out of me.

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