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Are these people so desperate that they will blindly vote for an old guy with Alzheimers, going down hill fast with a back up VP, who is Indian, claiming to be black... lies about every thing, openly hates this nation....will walk over anyone for her own benefit, and is a full blown communist, and hates pretty much anything connected with anyone white...
They think this is going to be for their financial security and doing any good in the long run?
does Iowa have farmers who are that stupid? They might as well sign over their possessions to the DNCC now, and start looking for work, and get a big jump on those that wait for another 2 years to be totally wiped out...
Biden vs Trump isn't even an intelligent choice... a vote for democRATS is about as good for your future and the future of this country, as just putting a gun to your head and pulling the trigger...especially someone who owns a farm...
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If the Fox News reporter was Chrissie Wallace, do not believe her/him.
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Curiosity compelled me to look at USDA map of CRP enrollment, Ioway is just about solid green. If I read it right, the 2018 farm bill has 23.7 billion earmarked for the taxpayers to rent ground to take it out of production? Like Sgt Schultz, I know nothing...but it looks like you vote for Republicans, get money for growing nothing...vote for China Joe, make money selling to a world market. Other than the morals or ethics thing, how can an aspiring agri-businessman go wrong?
Well this is a fine pickle we're in, should'a listened to Joe McCarthy and George Orwell I guess.
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When I was in Iowa I saw a fair number of Hillary signs on barns, and of course the college towns are solid blue.
Iowa politics are a mixed bag, always have been.
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Very interesting. The guy who rents our property is 4th and we are 356th. My deceased mother is 699. kwg
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I am not hopeful, then again that is my nature. Not only is the glass half empty, but someone took a piss in it...
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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Fox news reporting for 3 days now, Iowa farmers about evenly split. One young farmer admitted he was voting his wallet, a vote for Biden was a vote for increased trade with China equals prosperity. Another crusty old pro Trump farmer says, "I want to be inspired by my leaders, not given a handout". I have always held people who work the land, generally in higher regard, thinking they hold traditional values....once again, maybe I made a mistake. You saw, what they wanted you to see.
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From what I've seen that "one young farmer" may be the only farmer in Iowa voting commie. Nice!
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Farming is all about subsidies and price supports. That's definitely Democrat territory.
Drive through SE MO cotton field country... you will see Biden signs.
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Fox News “reporters” are evenly split for Trump and Biden too, with the Biden supporters probably having a slight edge.
I believe a lot of the reporting on Fox as much as I believe all the reporting on CNN. Not at all.
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And...it was on Fox, how much time did they devote to researching and polling the farmers? They just asked Mike Bloomberg
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Paging Wabigoon?!
What is the pulse of the woke Iowa farmers?
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Vote republican for everything. Then the USA stays alive and free. Otherwise, the democrat anti-American/socialist/communist/marxist/liberals win and freedom will be gone along with anything which was the USA. That will include our guns, much higher taxes, Constitution, and our way of freedom in our life. You can kiss the churches goodbye too. Then get ready to learn to speak chinese. The democrat anti-American/socialist/communist/marxist/liberals should be removed from office and off all the ballots for they offer nothing for America or the American people to help make the country better.
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The problem I see is that the US farming industry (my country's farming industry as well, for that matter) has been built around producing and exporting as much grain as possible.
When a big market like the chinese one suddenly disappears, a drop in prices is unavoidable. This makes it unprofitable, especially for smaller farmers, to produce the same crops.
In the current climate, cost minimization is king. That's why we're seeing less and less small farms and more and more corporations getting into farming: They profit the most from fixed cost digression.
Here in Germany you need a minimum of 500 acres to make regular grain farming profitable for one farmer and his family. That's a pretty sad picture in my opinion.
So, the question I want to ask is: How do we keep farming profitable for farmers who own their land and aren't just corporate employees? And all that without sucking up to the Chinese.
The only options I see at this point are:
1. Subsidizing the downsizing of big corporate farms
2. Continual subsidizing of small farms
3. A minimum price for grain
t. Grew up on a farm and currently learning the trade officially.
P.S. voting away my freedoms by choosing someone like ol' Joe is not an option
They don't make 'em like they used to
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The problem I see is that the US farming industry (my country's farming industry as well, for that matter) has been built around producing and exporting as much grain as possible.
When a big market like the chinese one suddenly disappears, a drop in prices is unavoidable. This makes it unprofitable, especially for smaller farmers, to produce the same crops.
In the current climate, cost minimization is king. That's why we're seeing less and less small farms and more and more corporations getting into farming: They profit the most from fixed cost digression.
Here in Germany you need a minimum of 500 acres to make regular grain farming profitable for one farmer and his family. That's a pretty sad picture in my opinion.
So, the question I want to ask is: How do we keep farming profitable for farmers who own their land and aren't just corporate employees? And all that without sucking up to the Chinese.
The only options I see at this point are:
1. Subsidizing the downsizing of big corporate farms
2. Continual subsidizing of small farms
3. A minimum price for grain
t. Grew up on a farm and currently learning the trade officially.
P.S. voting away my freedoms by choosing someone like ol' Joe is not an option They diversify the crops grown. Around here almost every farm now has acres of hemp! Who knows what comes next! If farmers are growing grain and not making bank, they need to research and find crops that will make bank! No different than any other business. Feed the supply and demand.
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You must be a top Fargo detective. Or, a PostMaster. . Idiot
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More trade with China.... And no fracking and $4 plus dollar a fuel....
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Asking Wagiboon? Really? Paging Wabigoon?!
What is the pulse of the woke Iowa farmers?
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Fox news reporting for 3 days now, Iowa farmers about evenly split. One young farmer admitted he was voting his wallet, a vote for Biden was a vote for increased trade with China equals prosperity. Another crusty old pro Trump farmer says, "I want to be inspired by my leaders, not given a handout". I have always held people who work the land, generally in higher regard, thinking they hold traditional values....once again, maybe I made a mistake. You sure did. My uncles were all S Dakota farmers and were Democrats, always looking for some kind of government hand out. It's not all that uncommon.
TV has become nothing more than the Petri dish where this country grows its idiots.
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Maybe a tax structure that favors family operations and taxes big ag corporate operations? For instance, if you reside on the land you farm, you pay a minimal rate to maintain roads and schools. If you are an absentee landowner/ farmer you pay a higher rate. Maybe a 100% machinery tax write off for family operations? In the past, tinkering with price controls and crop subsidies has not had a very good track record of saving small farmers. It's been a boom/bust cycle for as long as I remember. And big ag has the money to "influence" congress, frequently to the detriment of the small farmer.
Well this is a fine pickle we're in, should'a listened to Joe McCarthy and George Orwell I guess.
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