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Larry Corriea lays it out, logically and concisely. Seriously, a really good read. What an auditor thinks
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He condensed it down to a level I can understand, good post.
Well this is a fine pickle we're in, should'a listened to Joe McCarthy and George Orwell I guess.
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There's no proof there, just strange and suspicious things. The closest is the USPS whistle-blower, if that can be verified that's proof, but what do you do about it? The ballots are now illegal, but can you identify them to throw them out?
Originally I was of the mind that the very slanted "rules" for calling states was simply done to show Biden almost win, then have Trump come from behind and that would then give the die-hard D's grounds to whine for 4 years about an illegit president.
Now I see two thing: 1) If Trump/R's have proof, bring it forward, FAST before it's to late. 2) Stop talking about illegal votes etc. If you can't bring forward proof, it's just a wish.
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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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People who report crimes do not normally have the burden of proof to establish an actual crime. I think that is the province of DA's, grand juries and law enforcement. In other words, Joe Citizen Whistleblower need not establish proof of a crime. He can allege a crime, then the local convening authority decides whether to investigate or not. I think that is how it works. But you're right, the strength of the allegation and the speed it is presented to the authorities is the slam dunk they need to pursue an investigation.
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Well this is a fine pickle we're in, should'a listened to Joe McCarthy and George Orwell I guess.
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if that can be verified that's proof, but what do you do about it? The ballots are now illegal, but can you identify them to throw them out?
Redo the whole vote. Too crooked to rely on any of it.
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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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I think we are all happy to count all the votes 3 times if that weeds out the conspiracy nuts...
Have the Republican and Democratic party leader in each state sit together while votes are being counted in front of them. And any suspicious count, will be quadruple checked against any register you want, by a bipartisan group of lawyers.
Lets go...
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The US in the last 40 years:
Socialism for big corporations and military industrial complex
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Yeah, it's all good & we know what happened; so the real question is, what next?
This is incredibly obvious given the virtually impossible way it was implemented, to anyone who doesn't have solid blue in his veins.........................but will the legal system have the guts to actually take a meaningful position & impose some very strict standards for recounts? At a minimum.
Amongst other possible remedies, that one at least should directed w/o question.
But will it? I dunno....................
Heads seriously need to roll on this one way or another.
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I think we are all happy to count all the votes 3 times if that weeds out the conspiracy nuts...
Have the Republican and Democratic party leader in each state sit together while votes are being counted in front of them. And any suspicious count, will be quadruple checked against any register you want, by a bipartisan group of lawyers.
Lets go...
. How's that going to work now that the extra ballots have been mixed with the others. There is no such thing as a bipartisan lawyer either. The democrats corrupted the voting process on purpose for the sole purpose of controlling the outcome.
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I don’t think many people are shocked that the Dems cheated. I just think people are shocked by how big they were willing to go. Trump got 5 million more votes than he did last time. That didn’t faze them. They just upped the ante.
From a purely Machiavellian standpoint, they had nothing to lose. If they didn’t cheat, Biden loses. They know they won’t get prosecuted in any of these places. If they get caught and it gets set aside, Biden loses...but he would have anyway. So it’s pretty much like a hard foul on a guy going for a breakaway layup or grabbing a receiver’s jersey after you were beat deep. The worst thing that happens is that the guy shoots free throws or you get a pass interference penalty. Big deal. He was going to score anyway. And every once in awhile you get lucky and the refs don’t call it.
The Republicans are the suckers who are too honorable to foul a guy going up for a layup or to grab a jersey when a receiver breaks free.
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I don’t think many people are shocked that the Dems cheated. I just think people are shocked by how big they were willing to go. Trump got 5 million more votes than he did last time. That didn’t faze them. They just upped the ante. Yep. Absent massive, highly organized, election fraud, Trump would have won by a clear landslide. These folks just determined how high the Trump lead in the key states was going to be, and then (while America slept) they generated that many Biden votes, and a little more, to add into the vote count. Couldn't be more obvious.
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To summarize:
The massive turn out alone is a red flag.
But as for doing better…
The late night spikes that were enough to close all the Trump leads are a red flag.
The statistically impossible breakdown of the ratios of these vote dumps is a red flag.
The ratios of these dumps being far better than the percentages in the bluest of blue cities, even though the historical data does not match, red flag.
The ratios of these vote dumps favoring Biden more in these few battlegrounds than the ratio for the rest of the country (even the bluest of the blue) red flag.
Biden outperforming Obama among these few urban vote dumps, even though Trump picked up points in every demographic group in the rest of the country, red flag.
The poll observers being removed. Red flag.
The counters cheering as GOP observers are removed, red flag.
The fact that the dem observers outnumber the GOP observers 3 to 1, red flag (and basis of the first lawsuit filed)
The electioneering at the polls (on video), red flag.
The willful violation of the court order requiring the separation of ballots by type, red flag.
USPS whistleblower reporting to the Inspector General that today they were ordered to backdate ballots to yesterday, red flag.
The video of 2 AM deliveries of what appear to be boxes of ballots with no chain of custody or other observers right before the late night miracle spikes, red flag.
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I think we are all happy to count all the votes 3 times if that weeds out the conspiracy nuts...
Have the Republican and Democratic party leader in each state sit together while votes are being counted in front of them. And any suspicious count, will be quadruple checked against any register you want, by a bipartisan group of lawyers.
Lets go...
. If this happened, most would be satisified. It will not happen. This is exactly the type of oversite the democrates have been fighting against for three days. Republican poll watchers thrown out in the middel of the night when hundreds of thousands of ballots show up, all for Biden ? There is a lot of evidence of voter fraud, but most of it is circumstantial. Once the ballots have been feed into a counting machine, it’s almost impossible to identify the fraudulent votes and take them out.
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I suggest everyone copy and save this linked article, it will come in handy during the next four years.
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To summarize:
The massive turn out alone is a red flag.
But as for doing better…
The late night spikes that were enough to close all the Trump leads are a red flag.
The statistically impossible breakdown of the ratios of these vote dumps is a red flag.
The ratios of these dumps being far better than the percentages in the bluest of blue cities, even though the historical data does not match, red flag.
The ratios of these vote dumps favoring Biden more in these few battlegrounds than the ratio for the rest of the country (even the bluest of the blue) red flag.
Biden outperforming Obama among these few urban vote dumps, even though Trump picked up points in every demographic group in the rest of the country, red flag.
The poll observers being removed. Red flag.
The counters cheering as GOP observers are removed, red flag.
The fact that the dem observers outnumber the GOP observers 3 to 1, red flag (and basis of the first lawsuit filed)
The electioneering at the polls (on video), red flag.
The willful violation of the court order requiring the separation of ballots by type, red flag.
USPS whistleblower reporting to the Inspector General that today they were ordered to backdate ballots to yesterday, red flag.
The video of 2 AM deliveries of what appear to be boxes of ballots with no chain of custody or other observers right before the late night miracle spikes, red flag. Nice summary.
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I think we are all happy to count all the votes 3 times if that weeds out the conspiracy nuts...
Have the Republican and Democratic party leader in each state sit together while votes are being counted in front of them. And any suspicious count, will be quadruple checked against any register you want, by a bipartisan group of lawyers.
Lets go...
. If this happened, most would be satisified. It will not happen. This is exactly the type of oversite the democrates have been fighting against for three days. Republican poll watchers thrown out in the middel of the night when hundreds of thousands of ballots show up, all for Biden ? There is a lot of evidence of voter fraud, but most of it is circumstantial. Once the ballots have been feed into a counting machine, it’s almost impossible to identify the fraudulent votes and take them out. Yep. That's designed to protect our nation's secret ballot system, so no one will fear that their vote will be tracked later on for reprisals against them. Unfortunately, it also makes it very difficult to go back and determine which votes are real and which are fake, because you cannot attach a vote to any particular voter.
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I think we are all happy to count all the votes 3 times if that weeds out the conspiracy nuts...
Have the Republican and Democratic party leader in each state sit together while votes are being counted in front of them. And any suspicious count, will be quadruple checked against any register you want, by a bipartisan group of lawyers.
Lets go...
. If "we all are happy" ie dems included, to recount the votes we wouldn't be in this situation in the first place. But then even third graders know the golden rule.
“Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them.” ― G. Orwell
"Why can't men kill big game with the same cartridges women and kids use?" _Eileen Clarke
"Unjust authority confers no obligation of obedience." - Alexander Hamilton
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all of the red flags will be denied and not see the light of day. the MSM and SM are too corrupt at this point. the attack on Trump came from many fronts, media, swamp, academia, state leadership, and local political hacks, not to mention entrenched bureaucrats. no holds barred and they succeeded.
the take away is that Trump was really on to something, and they could not fathom interrupting the obama agenda...interrupting, because obama was only the beginning
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