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"All that the South has ever desired was that the Union, as established by our forefathers, should be preserved, and that the government, as originally organized, should be administered in purity and truth." – Robert E. Lee

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Thank you kindly gents! I decided to try the Paco Pad. Couple of others here look try worthy as well.

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Originally Posted by ledvm
Thank you kindly gents! I decided to try the Paco Pad. Couple of others here look try worthy as well.


Paco pad is good gear. don't be afraid to go thick and wide.

the silverback used to be the biggest model, haven't bought a new Paco in a while. (have 5)

I have a couple of custom 2"thick, 24" wide that fit between wheel wells of pickup bed.


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...Actually Sycamore, you are sort of right....
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I used to use thermarest, had no complaints for my backpacking pad years ago. I switched to Paco after a few trips down the Grand Canyon with some buddies on a private trip. Hunting camp, camping, sleeping in the truck bed, can't beat a Paco pad. I do use a ground tarp with em though as with all my gear. Saves on wear and tear. I keep one of those OD green heavy duty canvas tarps in stash or truck box.

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Thermarest neoair XL.

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Originally Posted by Happy_Camper
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Are hammocks any good for side sleepers? I imagine they'd be backbreaking.

I'm a side sleeper.

If you set them up wrong it can be. Most people set them up too tight and lie in them like a banana. There's lots of videos and a forum on how to get everything just right.
For instance, you lie with your head to one side diagonally to get a flat lay. The tension, length and width of the hammock has to be right for each individual. Once those are dialed in, I ve not found a more comfortable sleep.



I tried. For YEARS I tried to camp with a hammock. Several different ones. Just kept getting worse and worse. Finally, I decided to just quit, and I will never even think about getting in another hammock again. Oh, they're comfortable for "lounging".. but for me, uncomfortable, and downright painful for sleeping...or should I say, trying to sleep. NOT good for sleeping on my side. They scrunch my shoulders, and press down on the top of my head. No matter what I do. A "flat lay" is impossible for me (yes).

Of course, If I mention this to a hammock true believer, they are sure I'm just doing something wrong, and if only I try this other hammock, or that other hammock, and spend hundreds more dollars, that eventually I MUST find nocturnal bliss like they do.... They proselytize hammocking with a religious zeal, and cannot comprehend that it just doesn't work for everyone.

By all means, try one. It may work for you, but it may not.

I finally got a lightweight camping/hiking cot. Not nearly as light as a hammock, of course (it's about 4 1/2 pounds), but I can sleep on that sucker! SOOOOO much better. You couldn't put a gun to my head and make me get in a hammock again.

Sorry, didn't mean to go off on a rant!

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