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Does your Gen 1 have an unthreaded muzzle?

I doubt it.....

Why not? You figure it’ll be worth something one of these days? 🙄

After some thought, I suspect one reason Hornady may have quit listing the H4350 load on the box is that H4350 has been unobtainium for long periods (including right now) ever since the Obama Panics.

Uh...some handloaders found that 43gr - 43.5gr was more accurate ??

OCD. I have different boxes dating back to the '60's...that would be the 1960's ...

Nope.

The online Hodgdon data is more conservative. 140 gr bullet with a max load of 40.0 grs and list as compressed. What's up with that?

https://www.hodgdonreloading.com/data/rifle


Seems like H4350 comes and goes often enough to grab some. I got it from Midsouth about a month ago.

That's because the 140 Hodgdon used for pressure-testing, for some reason, is the Swift A-Frame, which is among the bullets producing the most pressure for the same diameter and weight.

Maybe, but I doubt it.

I have now owned five 6.5 Creedmoors made by various companies, and handloaded for 3-4 other loaners. In general H4350 is at least one of the most accurate powders for bullets in the 140-grain range, but the most accurate charge will vary some due to several factors:

The rifle.
The particular lot of H4350.
Brass and primer.
The particular bullet. (Here it should be noted that Hornady no longer makes the 140 A-Max.)

I purchased my first 6.5 Creedmoor in 2010 from a local store, a walnut-stocked Ruger Hawkeye, along with several boxes of Hornady factory ammo, the only kind available then. The load we're talking about, with the 140 A-Max and 41.5 grains of H4350 printed on the box, was the one I chose to sight-in with. It's very first group at 100 yards--which was 5-shot, not 3-shot--went into .63", which is not bad for an OTB factory rifle with factory ammo. And gee, I didn't even break the barrel in "properly"--whatever that means.

JB, just recently pulled out The Big Book Of Gun Gack and re-read your introduction to the 6.5 Creedmoor. That rifle was a heck of a good shooter. Also gleaned info from GGII.

Do you have experience with the 139 Scenars? Any article on if?

Just a little. but only on paper, not game.

Due to the experience of many others (especially Pat--"scenarshooter" on the 'Fire) I am sure they'd work fine. Plus, I have plenty of experience with the Berger Hunting VLD, on game up to elk size, and it works fine, though a little differently than the Scenar.

But even today many of the magazines I write for have a policy of not discussing the use of "target" bullets on big game--partly because they get too many letters from readers (most of whom have never used "target" bullets on big game) objecting to the practice. As a result I haven't tested them, whether on "media" or game, because there are far too many other bullet tests of various kinds that can be published.

That last sentence could end with "far too many other bullets that work".

Yep.