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I am less and less of the mind that Trump will be president on 1/20, it's possible, but sliding to less likely,
Occams Razor says fraud didn't happen: Biden won.
There was fraud, the questions are how much and can it be proven and if so, how fast.
- If, and I think this is a long shot, Trump can prove fraud, the only option is to toss it to the House, If that happens, it's a toss up. How many of the R states will just say 'well our state voted this way'? How many will side with the popular vote? this is NOT a slam dunk for Trump. There will be HUGE pressure to pick Biden and HUGE protests if not Biden.
- If he proves fraud, but not in time, then Biden is president, then what? Biden takes the fall and Harris is president. This one I fear the most. And assumign the fraud mess is real, may very well be the plan all along.
- If he can't prove fraud, to the legal limits, then Biden is president and stays there while the media essentially ignores things.
Sorry folks, I don't see Trump being president, and if he is, I see it being more contentious that the last 4 years. i see most likely is that fraud is proven, but Biden takes the fall and we get harris
Under non of these do I see much changing UNLESS Trump is president on 1/20
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Occams Razor says fraud didn't happen: Biden won. Occums razor? You twit. Dominion uses components from china. Dominion Voting Systems software was used in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Wisconsin, Nevada, Minnesota and in Maricopa County, Arizona. Dominion Voting Systems has ties to prominent Democrats, including House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Bill and Hillary Clinton. Bloomberg reported in April of last year that Dominion Voting Systems hired a high-powered lobbying firm that includes a longtime aide to Pelosi. They hired Brownstein Farber Hyatt & Schreck. Nadeam Elshami, Pelosi’s former chief of staff, is one of the lobbyists on the account. In 2014, Dominion was listed in the Washington Post table as having donated between $25,001-$50,000 to the Clinton Foundation. In May, WorldTribune.com reported on suspicions of election fraud in South Korea’s April election which saw the party of unpopular leftist President Moon Jae-In win in a landslide. Not to mention their use in Venezuelan elections. Occums razors azz you twit
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Occams Razor says fraud didn't happen: Biden won. Occums razor? You twit. Dominion uses components from china. Dominion Voting Systems software was used in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Wisconsin, Nevada, Minnesota and in Maricopa County, Arizona. Dominion Voting Systems has ties to prominent Democrats, including House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Bill and Hillary Clinton. Bloomberg reported in April of last year that Dominion Voting Systems hired a high-powered lobbying firm that includes a longtime aide to Pelosi. They hired Brownstein Farber Hyatt & Schreck. Nadeam Elshami, Pelosi’s former chief of staff, is one of the lobbyists on the account. In 2014, Dominion was listed in the Washington Post table as having donated between $25,001-$50,000 to the Clinton Foundation. In May, WorldTribune.com reported on suspicions of election fraud in South Korea’s April election which saw the party of unpopular leftist President Moon Jae-In win in a landslide. Not to mention their use in Venezuelan elections. Occums razors azz you twit Twit yourself. Every US manufacturer of anything electronic uses components manufactured in China. That's because we've let our manufacturing industries go there.
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Occams Razor says fraud didn't happen: Biden won. Occums razor? You twit. Dominion uses components from china. Dominion Voting Systems software was used in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Wisconsin, Nevada, Minnesota and in Maricopa County, Arizona. Dominion Voting Systems has ties to prominent Democrats, including House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Bill and Hillary Clinton. Bloomberg reported in April of last year that Dominion Voting Systems hired a high-powered lobbying firm that includes a longtime aide to Pelosi. They hired Brownstein Farber Hyatt & Schreck. Nadeam Elshami, Pelosi’s former chief of staff, is one of the lobbyists on the account. In 2014, Dominion was listed in the Washington Post table as having donated between $25,001-$50,000 to the Clinton Foundation. In May, WorldTribune.com reported on suspicions of election fraud in South Korea’s April election which saw the party of unpopular leftist President Moon Jae-In win in a landslide. Not to mention their use in Venezuelan elections. Occums razors azz you twit Ok genius, how do you see this playing out? Dominion is probably most likely, that does what? Throws it to the house, do you see states going down party lines? I am not convinced. Do you think they can make the case against dominion fast enough? If not in time to stop Biden being inaugurated then what? You can be a blind obedient follower or you can actually apply some thought. I simply don't see a clear path to Trump by January. And that worries me
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No disrespect but your post is proof that their plan is working. Bogus pre-election polls to fabricate low expectations. Massive fraud during the election. Widespread cover by the media to censor any allegations of said fraud. Inaccurately calling Biden "President elect" to create an illusion of inevitability. Establishment of the "Office of the President elect" to create the illusion of credibility. Outlets like FOX who are "supposedly" biased towards Republicans caving to create the illusion of denial and desperation. Stonewalling to create an impossible timeline. Accusations of Trump creating a Constitutional crisis, when in fact, the opposite is true. And doing all this at the end of the most painful year (caused by Democrats) in order to give people election fatigue so that the just wish it was over already.
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So outlaw, are you giving up? I am simply trying to understand path forward.
Can Dominion be proven fast enough? If not then what happens if proven later?
I can't figure out why Biden came out of nowhere to run, unless it was the front fall guy to get in who they wanted
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No disrespect but your post is proof that their plan is working. Bogus pre-election polls to fabricate low expectations. Massive fraud during the election. Widespread cover by the media to censor any allegations of said fraud. Inaccurately calling Biden "President elect" to create an illusion of inevitability. Establishment of the "Office of the President elect" to create the illusion of credibility. Outlets like FOX who are "supposedly" biased towards Republicans caving to create the illusion of denial and desperation. Stonewalling to create an impossible timeline. Accusations of Trump creating a Constitutional crisis, when in fact, the opposite is true. And doing all this at the end of the most painful year (caused by Democrats) in order to give people election fatigue so that the just wish it was over already. Good post. ...I don't see Trump being president... That's because you're a democrat.
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Occams Razor says fraud didn't happen
Dominion is probably most likely,
I am not convinced.
I simply don't see a clear path to Trump by January
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Any evidence of widespread voting fraud will be one of the primary reasons, possibly THE primary reason, given for the split that's looming. If the presidential election is not legitimate because of illegal shenanigans that can be proven, what other result could occur with what the Dems, including Biden, are proposing? If the Senate goes to the Dems and they do what they've been saying they're going to do with Biden/Harris in the White House, violating the Constitution on top of whatever questionable stuff happened in the election in some states, I can't see the Union existing 10 years from now. I don't want that outcome because things will probably be worse than they were 160 years ago, but things aren't looking good for a reconciliation.
Some will say the deep division is Trump's fault, but Trump has been a symptom of the division - not the cause, and his election four years ago was the result of the divisiveness from 2008 to 2016 with the administration in power then weaponizing the IRS, the Dems ending the filibuster for judicial nominations when they controlled the Senate last, etc. The stark divide started with Florida in the 2000 election and has progressively gotten worse over the past 20 years with some Dem controlled states trampling the Constitutional rights of their citizens while catering to criminal elements.
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I see it playing out that if any of these cases: especially, the Dominion case get any traction in the courts, then the courts will have to issue an order to stop the election process..Stop the certification until the court cases, investigations, etc can play out...If Sidney has all the evidence she claims and it sheds enough light that there was foreign interference, I would think the courts would have to act quickly...They can't allow the person that may have benefitted from the fraud to become President.
Or, worse case scenario, Trump will have to issue an executive order to stop the election process due to a coop to steal the election, foreign interference in the election, etc., but not sure if that holds up in court.
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Blacktails are rutting here. Bears making themselves scarce. Well stated. Time for everybody to move on with the rest of their lives....
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No disrespect but your post is proof that their plan is working. Bogus pre-election polls to fabricate low expectations. Massive fraud during the election. Widespread cover by the media to censor any allegations of said fraud. Inaccurately calling Biden "President elect" to create an illusion of inevitability. Establishment of the "Office of the President elect" to create the illusion of credibility. Outlets like FOX who are "supposedly" biased towards Republicans caving to create the illusion of denial and desperation. Stonewalling to create an impossible timeline. Accusations of Trump creating a Constitutional crisis, when in fact, the opposite is true. And doing all this at the end of the most painful year (caused by Democrats) in order to give people election fatigue so that the just wish it was over already. Kudos for an excellent synopsis.
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No disrespect but your post is proof that their plan is working. Bogus pre-election polls to fabricate low expectations. Massive fraud during the election. Widespread cover by the media to censor any allegations of said fraud. Inaccurately calling Biden "President elect" to create an illusion of inevitability. Establishment of the "Office of the President elect" to create the illusion of credibility. Outlets like FOX who are "supposedly" biased towards Republicans caving to create the illusion of denial and desperation. Stonewalling to create an impossible timeline. Accusations of Trump creating a Constitutional crisis, when in fact, the opposite is true. And doing all this at the end of the most painful year (caused by Democrats) in order to give people election fatigue so that the just wish it was over already. Kudos for an excellent synopsis. Yep, good synopsis. ...and what does that synopsis point us to in relation to the OP's post? It seems to me like it falls in line with the OP. I hate it. It's so painful to watch the media dismiss the discussion of voter fraud. The media takes so many accusations or possibilities and runs with them on everything else....but this they have dismissed immediately.
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Still cant believe this red vs blue stuff. Trump was never going to save you guys, he sat by while non-elected officials torched your economy over a 'super pandemic' that turns out cant even kill 3rd worlders in large numbers. Same as both political parties in every 3rd world country. Its time to get over it fellas, your horse lost the race and he wasnt running for you anyway.
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Still cant believe this red vs blue stuff. Trump was never going to save you guys, he sat by while non-elected officials torched your economy over a 'super pandemic' that turns out cant even kill 3rd worlders in large numbers. Same as both political parties in every 3rd world country. Its time to get over it fellas, your horse lost the race and he wasnt running for you anyway. What a dumbazz...
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There are only things that will prevent Joe Biden from becoming president.........Donald Trump declaring that he will not step down, and remains in office with the support of the military. The other way is for the American citizens to rise up as they did against the British, and taking our country back from the Socialists. I would be in support of either of those things.
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I would not buy something that runs on any kind of primer given the possibility of primer shortages and even regulations. In fact, why not buy a flintlock? Really. Rocks aren't going away anytime soon.
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