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My Great Grandfather was very good friends with Ellwood and a frequent visitor to his Clinton store. This picture has a place of honor in my living room (my GG on the right with Ellwood and his wife in the middle...never got the name of the person on the left) My GG had Ellwood and his gunsmith customize the rifle he's holding (Mauser 98 in .35 Whelen), and it must have been early on in it's life as it isn't sporting it's side mounted Weaver K4 yet. My Dad inherited the rifle when my GG passed away and since it's move to Atikokan, has accounted for 3 moose and a pile of deer, including my first buck. It's on the right in this picture. My Dad is a very...frugal man and firmly believes one shot is enough to check zero each season and that if the scope still lines up with the irons, it's good enough. Who am I to doubt him when I can't ever recall that rifle missing what it was pointed at. It shoots everything to the same point of aim at 100 yards, doesn't matter if it's a factory 200 or 250gr or a handloaded 225. I remember one day when confirming zero, Dad digging through his toolbox where he kept his ammo and pulled out a sleeve of handloaded 225 gr. that had come with the rifle. He cycled one through, took aim and touched off the trigger. He got scoped for his trouble and grunted, "Those are a little zippy..." Cory
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Very interesting - thanks for sharing.
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What wonderful photos! To me, photos and other things of this nature grow more important with age. That must be a 1950s vintage picture. A few things that caught my eye. No one has a scoped rifle. Your GG has a single trigger. The rest are double triggers. I assume that Ellwood and Isabel got the centre moose. I wonder which of them shot it?
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Marg and I hunted with Elwood and Isabelle Epps in the late 60s. We lived in Kirkland Lake, and they came North from Clinton to hunt around Matatchewan, which was about an hour away from us. The moose season was open until December 15th in those days, and we used skidoos to get into the hunting area.
Can't remember for sure what Elwood used, but Isabelle always carried a 7X57, and she could shoot it!
Elwood was a fan of round nose bullets. In fact he wrote at least one article about it, called, "Make Mime A Round Nose. Never forgot that.
Now, to find those pictures.....
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Yes, try and find them, Ted. And yes, Isabel knew what to use. Her favourite Epps cartridge was the 6.5 Epps. I am going to have to print Cory's photo and show it to Rob Wise, Ellwood's grandson. He might know who the fellow on the left is.
Isabel outlived Ellwood by 14 years and died at 98 in London, ON.
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So, at deer camp this week the guys were talking and they reminded me to tell the story of the first day I worked at Lovett’s. This would have been around the first week of Sept. 1978.
As it happens, of the four of us at deer camp this year, 2 are brothers. But we all worked at Lovett’s, having met there and remaining good friends over 40 years later. We toasted the father of the brothers, who passed in August this year. He loved going to deer camp, too, and worked at Lovett’s after retiring from his career.
Anyway, back to the story of my first day at Lovett’s. I was a greenhorn, having little hunting experience besides shooting groundhogs on my grandfather’s farm with an old Cooey single-shot 22. But Keith hired me anyway and that first day on King St. W. motioned for me to follow him outside.
We went to the gravel parking lot at the side of the building, where Keith produced a can of gunpowder that he said was old and he wanted to get rid of.
He proceeded to draw a design on the gravel with it, about 12” across, then bent over and touched a flame to the powder. It “whooshed” suddenly and flared right into his face as he was bent over! I vividly remember him just kind of groaning and falling backwards in his hunched over position, his glasses fogged completely white from the powder residue!
I stood slack-jawed, the first thought through my mind being “First day on the job and I’ve killed the boss!’ He soon recovered and I helped him inside.
His wife Eileen was a Registered Nurse, so she treated him, but he ended up with 2nd and 3rd-degree burns on his face. Over the next couple of weeks his face was peeling dead skin and weeping from the water blisters. He told anyone who asked that he fell asleep under a sun lamp.
Of course, myself and the other employees there that day knew otherwise, and someone let slip what had happened. A few weeks later Keith got an unannounced visit from the RCMP to check his powder stores. Nothing ever came of it that I know of.
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I spoke with Keith's daughter in the past year who told me Keith and Eileen were well and had moved back to NS. Keith was a one of a kind.
Once I asked his wife why Keith hadn't retired yet when he was still at his store on Old King near Freeport? Eileen said, "He wasn't house trained!"
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That's a great story OG. Be Well, RZ.
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I spoke with Keith's daughter in the past year who told me Keith and Eileen were well and had moved back to NS. Keith was a one of a kind.
Once I asked his wife why Keith hadn't retired yet when he was still at his store on Old King near Freeport? Eileen said, "He wasn't house trained!"
Keith passed away in Feb 2018. You must have talked with her more than a year ago. https://www.wjdooley.com/obituary/Keith-Lovett
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Indeed. Time flies...
I stand corrected.
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My Great Grandfather was very good friends with Ellwood and a frequent visitor to his Clinton store. This picture has a place of honor in my living room (my GG on the right with Ellwood and his wife in the middle...never got the name of the person on the left) My GG had Ellwood and his gunsmith customize the rifle he's holding (Mauser 98 in .35 Whelen), and it must have been early on in it's life as it isn't sporting it's side mounted Weaver K4 yet. My Dad inherited the rifle when my GG passed away and since it's move to Atikokan, has accounted for 3 moose and a pile of deer, including my first buck. It's on the right in this picture. My Dad is a very...frugal man and firmly believes one shot is enough to check zero each season and that if the scope still lines up with the irons, it's good enough. Who am I to doubt him when I can't ever recall that rifle missing what it was pointed at. It shoots everything to the same point of aim at 100 yards, doesn't matter if it's a factory 200 or 250gr or a handloaded 225. I remember one day when confirming zero, Dad digging through his toolbox where he kept his ammo and pulled out a sleeve of handloaded 225 gr. that had come with the rifle. He cycled one through, took aim and touched off the trigger. He got scoped for his trouble and grunted, "Those are a little zippy..." Cory In the second picture of the 2 rifles what gun is the left one, understand the right one is the 98 35 whelen, what is the action on the left one? Mb
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It looks like a LE to me. No charger bridge. New bolt handle. Action modded for a one piece stock. You used to see LE one piece stocks once upon a time.
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My Great Grandfather was very good friends with Ellwood and a frequent visitor to his Clinton store. This picture has a place of honor in my living room (my GG on the right with Ellwood and his wife in the middle...never got the name of the person on the left) My GG had Ellwood and his gunsmith customize the rifle he's holding (Mauser 98 in .35 Whelen), and it must have been early on in it's life as it isn't sporting it's side mounted Weaver K4 yet. My Dad inherited the rifle when my GG passed away and since it's move to Atikokan, has accounted for 3 moose and a pile of deer, including my first buck. It's on the right in this picture. My Dad is a very...frugal man and firmly believes one shot is enough to check zero each season and that if the scope still lines up with the irons, it's good enough. Who am I to doubt him when I can't ever recall that rifle missing what it was pointed at. It shoots everything to the same point of aim at 100 yards, doesn't matter if it's a factory 200 or 250gr or a handloaded 225. I remember one day when confirming zero, Dad digging through his toolbox where he kept his ammo and pulled out a sleeve of handloaded 225 gr. that had come with the rifle. He cycled one through, took aim and touched off the trigger. He got scoped for his trouble and grunted, "Those are a little zippy..." Cory In the second picture of the 2 rifles what gun is the left one, understand the right one is the 98 35 whelen, what is the action on the left one? Mb Leaning against the moose antlers? That's my Husqvarna 46 in 9.3x57. Cory
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That makes sense. I was looking at the cocking piece and the rear sight. The grip for the cocking piece looked different.
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Thanks Cory it is cool looking outfit also. The little small ring HVA's are sweet have 2 in 270 win. MB
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